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TeddoIchiban

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Hello everyone,

Teddo Ichiban, here! I've had this idea for a very long time and I've wanted to share because I like posing my figures, but I hate that the figures don't come with much in the way of helping collectors to do this. So Toybiz is long gone, but they used to have tons of accessories, a collector comic and usually a base or stand. It made each figure worth more than it's money's worth. As you know, though, Hasbro has a different sort of business model and cuts a few corners here and there. Some may argue that the figures physically look a lot better, but they come with almost nothing and sometimes barely have a paint wash or anything over the base colors. I don't mind, I prefer the look of the Hasbro figures, but I do feel like they could use more accessories. I don't like collections where the collectors just stand their figures up like an army at attention. They're called action figures, posing them and putting them in action is sort of the entire point....

I think a solution that Hasbro would be happy with AND collectors would enjoy would be Accessory Waves! These waves would be themed just like the figure waves (Spider-Man, X-Men, Netflix, GOTG, etc.), but would either come with in two generic body figure sets (Like the recent Nick Fury, The Chameleon/JJ, The SHIELD Agent, Hydra Soldier, AIM Soldier), or come as one large base per wave. The figure waves would come in the normal boxes, but just have a ton of accessories, not unlike the Deadpool from last year's Juggernaut BAF wave. The base waves would have a detailed base with tons of accessories in the box. This would allow them to have accessories and bases to display figures in dynamic poses, BUT it wouldn't make the cost of the figures go up.


They would also work in such a way that by buying the Figure or base waves, even a collector who has bought every previous wave still gets something new, or a new way to display old figures. While someone who just got started with these waves would only be starting off well stocked.

Below are some examples:


Spider-Man Accessory Wave:

 

Figure 1: Peter Parker in jacket and jeans.

Alternate Head: Random civilian with hat and sunglasses
Accessories: Camera, Skateboard, grocery bag, web line (short), web line (long), swinging webline, safe, wallet with cash sticking out, wad of cash, flight stand.

Figure 2: Doctor Connors in lab coat and clothes
Alternate Head 1: Hank Pym
Alternate Head 2: Generic Scientist [The peg would also be able to fit the Peter Parker, Tony Stark, Bruce Banner and Reed Richards heads]
Accessories: Mutagen vial, laptop/tablet, laser gun, explosion effect, Cryotube

Marvel Knights Wave:

Base: A warehouse set with a back wall and two side walls, perfect for ACBA or collection display. The base would be roughly W:9" x L:18"x H:9" The warehouse can hold as many characters as you feel look acceptable. So for those who would only put two or three characters in the space at a time, or those who'd have a giant brawl with 20 characters, both could use the base.
Accessories: Wooden table, Gun shelf, weapon chest, flight stand (x2), wall pegs, Assault Rifle, Handgun (x2), TMP, Sniper rifle, Batons, grapple gun, whip, web line(x2), fire effect, grenade, Energy blasy effect, briefcase, an extra Cap shield (because mine broke lol)

So not exactly these, so please don't bog down the discussion by arguing my examples (if you don't like something I suggested, just be creative and think of something better, don't get stuck on an example), but something LIKE that. For example, you only have a cosmic cube in your collection if you bought Red Skull. Did Marvel Legends release an Infinity Gauntlet? Items like those would come with the base sets. What do you think? What TYPES of things would you want to see? I think this would be a great way to handle army building and background characters.

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My alternative would be for the price to increase to $25 a figure and in turn, each figure comes loaded with the aforementioned accessories. Should we have to pay more than $20 a figure to get some actual accessories? ABSOLUTELY NOT...but...it's clearly not being done at the $20 price point...

 

Also, I don't really have any creative ideas to throw in the mix with regards to accessory "packs" but it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility for these to exist some day for ML, especially since there is already precedent for it in other lines. The Neca Predator/Alien accessory packs are reasonably new for example and they are KILLING IT with those packs!

 

However, I don't open my Legends (I've only bought an extra Agent Venom, Deadpool, Jim Lee Punisher and Angela to open...since 2014) so even if Hasbro released amazing accessory packs, i personally wouldn't buy any of them. I'm in the minority on this I know but that's me. I buy ML to keep in the package but I buy Selects to open because of their beefier scale and far superior sculpting/paint apps (plus they come with great accessories for the most part) The main reason I said I'd rather go for ML at $25 a fig for the accessories is because Selects are only a few bucks more then ML and what you lose with the BAF piece is more than made up for in the quality of the figure you are getting these days from them by comparison.

 

Now KilionNorcal mentioned vehicles...now that I would like to see as I feel that's a very delicate but very interesting concept.

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It really does all come down to money. I like the idea of a Peter Parker with a civilian head, and it made me think of a ski mask head as well to make him a burglar. But those things are doable with current releases.

 

I'm not a big accessory person, I don't need an arsenal of guns for a character that only has two hands. Just seems wasteful of plastic and cost when I can ONLY display my Deadpool holding two weapons, y'know? I LOVE power effects, so I would rather channel the costs into a more diverse range of power effects.

 

I'd also challenge the costs to go towards extensions of the BAF concept like I noted prior with something like Build-A-Team, where you get multiple left legs with one figure, and each single figure gives you limbs to build like four other characters. Even THAT is a concern to me as costing out well, but I'd rather acquire four more characters in a wave through an expanded BAF concept than have three extra guns and grocery bags and wallets etc.

 

Some of the favorite things I've gotten as bonuses have been a safe and a garbage can, and it helps add fun flourishes to my display. And some of the best display pieces I've gotten were from things like the Buffy figures, or Heroes, or Austin Powers. But that works when there is a limited cast to release in plastic form. When it's the Marvel Universe, there are SO MANY CHARACTERS... That's what I want. Would it be great to have extras? Sure. But not without going to $25 or without losing something else in order to gain what's being proposed.

 

Every now and then I still take out my destroyed Sentinel bases that came with the old Toy Biz Legends. BUT... for me it's ultimately about the characters. I wouldn't tailor a wave around getting me set pieces, I'd funnel whatever costs available to make the best 7-8 characters and a BAF and if I get some extra heads to make them different characters and I get a new power effect that makes more visible sense with the character than seeing a couple like Havok and Polaris with the same power effects to illustrate different power sets.

 

I'd go for vehicles too... but remember the last time they did that, we lost BAF pieces in that wave. One less character in order to get scooters and hoverboards and motorcycles.

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My problem with vehicles is that most characters don't need them. So what would they make that would make sense? A SHIELD jeep? Cop car? Thor, Hulk, Hobgoblin, Scarlet Witch, Black Cat, Wolverine, Rogue, Electro, War Machine--just a few of my figures that I can see from this angle. None of them drive cars or planes or anything. And there is already a ghost rider bike, helicarrier, and blackbird out there. I guess they could re-release those, but Ghost Rider currently sells for around $60, I'd rather they re-release him than his bike.

As for the issue with money. I'd have to disagree with some of you. It's really just about preference. It seems like you, that responded, aren't all that much into ACBA or dynamic posing. And that's totally fine. But I am, and for those like me, I don't want to pay MORE money to get what we already should be getting. And let's be fair, BTW, not all Legends are WORTH $20 price mark. Eel? Diamondback? Scourge? Captain America #5835893? Scourge was actually a good figure haha, but my point is that, no, I would not want to justify raising the price to get stuff that should already come with the figure. The Deadpool figure shows that they COULD do it exactly as I described without issue.

Between every NORMAL wave include an "Accessory Wave" figure (as described above), which is just an "army building" figure with a ton of extra accessories. And as for the base sets. Well, they could just be Toys'r'Us exclusives. An "Asgard" or "Dr.Strange" set with a ton of magical and energy accessories for people like you @DSmith. You'd be one of the one who wouldn't care about the guns, so don't buy that one. The point of the bases is to include those extra accessories. So you don't need or want extra guns, but like energy effects? Buy an energy effect base. Want extra webbing and Venom goo? Wait for a Spider-Man base.

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That's an awesome idea! If I opened my figs I'd be ALL over that lol. I'm a soft goods guy for life so I've always found it lame that 99% of the Legends capes/robes/sashes/skirts/etc whatever all come with hard plastic draping in those respective areas. Oh well, at least SW doesn't let me down with soft goods "most" of the time (looking at you Jawa!)

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