Hulk in Avengers Movie

[LegendsCollector07]

Well if anyone watches G4tv, on "Attack of the Show" I just heard that the Hulk is slated to be in the Avengers movie in 2010. I read on Marvel.com character bio's that at one time Banner was able to control the Hulk in his run when Hulk was an Avenger, but he later lost control. This could relate to Banner controling his Hulk transformation at the very end of the movie and the correlation with Stark talking about his "team". I think Thor, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Ant-man, and Wasp would be a good team. Scarlett Witch and Hawkeye would be icing on the cake though. I hope this movie lives up to the hype it is creating, I'm sure it will. :hulk:

[Rollo Tomassi]

That is the plan they are going for. It's why they held onto the Thor, Cap, IM and Avengers properties so they could develop them under the Marvel Films Production company where they retain more control. Eventually the film rights for X-Men, Spider-Man, FF will revert back to Marvel, and then can offer Fox and Sony the distribution rights with the caveat that all their characters are going to interact with each other. I'm sure Fox and Sony will play ball, but if they don't... loss for them.

[Jmacq1]

That is the plan they are going for. It's why they held onto the Thor, Cap, IM and Avengers properties so they could develop them under the Marvel Films Production company where they retain more control. Eventually the film rights for X-Men, Spider-Man, FF will revert back to Marvel, and then can offer Fox and Sony the distribution rights with the caveat that all their characters are going to interact with each other. I'm sure Fox and Sony will play ball, but if they don't... loss for them.

 

Uhm...not really. People will still go see X-Men, Spider-Man and *gag* FF movies even if they don't cross over. They're already proven franchises, so Fox and Sony don't lose anything by not "playing ball."

 

The X-Men have always practically lived in their own universe anyhow.

 

As for Hulk...I think he'll be an enemy of the Avengers for the first half of the film, and join (or at least help) them in the second half. Tony Stark didn't seem to be approaching General Ross to have Hulk join the team...it was more like he was suggesting this team would be able to take down/capture the Hulk once it was formed. Otherwise why bother talking to Ross at all, instead of trying to find Banner and talk to him?

[SP1D3RxV3N0M]

I would rather wait for the avengers movie more time, if they are going to rush the other movies to make it to the deadline.

[abazou]

i hope marvel studios takes back spiderman

[Rollo Tomassi]

That is the plan they are going for. It's why they held onto the Thor, Cap, IM and Avengers properties so they could develop them under the Marvel Films Production company where they retain more control. Eventually the film rights for X-Men, Spider-Man, FF will revert back to Marvel, and then can offer Fox and Sony the distribution rights with the caveat that all their characters are going to interact with each other. I'm sure Fox and Sony will play ball, but if they don't... loss for them.

 

Uhm...not really. People will still go see X-Men, Spider-Man and *gag* FF movies even if they don't cross over. They're already proven franchises, so Fox and Sony don't lose anything by not "playing ball."

 

The X-Men have always practically lived in their own universe anyhow.

 

As for Hulk...I think he'll be an enemy of the Avengers for the first half of the film, and join (or at least help) them in the second half. Tony Stark didn't seem to be approaching General Ross to have Hulk join the team...it was more like he was suggesting this team would be able to take down/capture the Hulk once it was formed. Otherwise why bother talking to Ross at all, instead of trying to find Banner and talk to him?

 

 

My point was Sony and Fox do not have the rights to those characters in perpituity. It's an X amount of movies and/or X amount of years. Then the license runs out. As we can see, it already happened with Universal and the Hulk franchise. So when they renegotiate Marvel can say hey we are going to be crossing over all of our characters, if you want to keep the distribution rights to this property, you can get in line OR we can just deal with somebody who will. If they are smart they will go along. Or you can be an idiot named Laura Ziskin and lose a multi billion dollar property...

 

[Jmacq1]

My point was Sony and Fox do not have the rights to those characters in perpituity. It's an X amount of movies and/or X amount of years. Then the license runs out. As we can see, it already happened with Universal and the Hulk franchise. So when they renegotiate Marvel can say hey we are going to be crossing over all of our characters, if you want to keep the distribution rights to this property, you can get in line OR we can just deal with somebody who will. If they are smart they will go along. Or you can be an idiot named Laura Ziskin and lose a multi billion dollar property...

 

No, they don't have the rights forever, but you're also assuming Sony and/or Fox wouldn't offer Marvel enough money to keep the licensing rights exclusive to themselves. There's one fundamentally flawed assumption that people are making in regards to the crossover thing: That they're somehow automatically going to be raging successes. So far, we haven't even seen a true crossover (and we won't until Avengers). Until we see the box-office success (or failure) of Avengers, there's no guarantee that "crossover" films make any more money than non-crossover films. Right now about the only segment of the audience that the "crossovers" appeal to is the comic-geek market, and that's a pathetically small segment of the moviegoing population.

 

Beyond that, Marvel would probably have to reboot/retool the X-Men and Fantastic Four franchises at the very least in order to make them "fit in" and undo some of the deaths, depowerments, etc... that have occurred in those films, (maybe Spider-Man as well). That's another huge expense that Marvel may not be willing to undertake so easily. They don't have unlimited funds after all.

 

Basically, it's not really as clear-cut as "licenses revert, now we cross over!"

 

[evenflow]

I would love to see them get back the rights for Spider-Man and FF and redo them and lead up to a proper symbiote story, with the Secret Wars being the big crossover.