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If Hasbro goes to 3-3/4 I'm done. I don't collect anything but Marvel Legends, and there is no way DCUC is comparable to Legends in my eyes. In most cases their articulation is less than ML and even when Hasbro ruins a figure with their retarded elbow and knee joints they are still only even on pose-ability.

 

With that said, Hasbro doesn't need ML to make money. Marvel doesn't need ML to make money. There are a lot of options for the smaller line as has been mentioned, and if indeed the target market is younger they will be less likely to object to multiple releases of the same character or mold.

 

On the subject of Marvel Select: I don't collect them and won't if ML are discontinued. They look great, but don't compare well in both size and articulation. However that would become the new venue for collector grade Marvel figures.

 

If Legends falters, it will be seen as a loser and no one will keep up with it, and eventually Mattel will quit that market as well because they don't need DC to make money. For that matter DC doesn't need Mattel to get their figures out.

 

Two out of three of you have said they will collect a 3-3/4 line. Hasbro isn't worried.

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If Hasbro goes to 3-3/4 I'm done. I don't collect anything but Marvel Legends, and there is no way DCUC is comparable to Legends in my eyes. In most cases their articulation is less than ML and even when Hasbro ruins a figure with their retarded elbow and knee joints they are still only even on pose-ability.

 

With that said, Hasbro doesn't need ML to make money. Marvel doesn't need ML to make money. There are a lot of options for the smaller line as has been mentioned, and if indeed the target market is younger they will be less likely to object to multiple releases of the same character or mold.

 

On the subject of Marvel Select: I don't collect them and won't if ML are discontinued. They look great, but don't compare well in both size and articulation. However that would become the new venue for collector grade Marvel figures.

 

If Legends falters, it will be seen as a loser and no one will keep up with it, and eventually Mattel will quit that market as well because they don't need DC to make money. For that matter DC doesn't need Mattel to get their figures out.

 

Two out of three of you have said they will collect a 3-3/4 line. Hasbro isn't worried.

 

 

actually...dcuc has better paint apps, and are more solid of a fig than ML.... dont hate because you love marvel. if DC messed up....i wouldnt.

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If Hasbro goes to 3-3/4 I'm done. I don't collect anything but Marvel Legends, and there is no way DCUC is comparable to Legends in my eyes. In most cases their articulation is less than ML and even when Hasbro ruins a figure with their retarded elbow and knee joints they are still only even on pose-ability.

 

With that said, Hasbro doesn't need ML to make money. Marvel doesn't need ML to make money. There are a lot of options for the smaller line as has been mentioned, and if indeed the target market is younger they will be less likely to object to multiple releases of the same character or mold.

 

On the subject of Marvel Select: I don't collect them and won't if ML are discontinued. They look great, but don't compare well in both size and articulation. However that would become the new venue for collector grade Marvel figures.

 

If Legends falters, it will be seen as a loser and no one will keep up with it, and eventually Mattel will quit that market as well because they don't need DC to make money. For that matter DC doesn't need Mattel to get their figures out.

 

Two out of three of you have said they will collect a 3-3/4 line. Hasbro isn't worried.

 

 

actually...dcuc has better paint apps, and are more solid of a fig than ML.... dont hate because you love marvel. if DC messed up....i wouldnt.

 

The DC figs are great. Much more detailed than MLs. I like MLs more for the articulation, but if I went by looks it would probably be DCs. The DCs are like posible MSs to me.

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I don't have to be hating to say DCUC look inferior. And even if I chose to hate, this is exactly where it should be done. My observations shouldn't make you nervous.

 

I'm hearing some pretty vague praise for DCUC: "more solid figures," and "much more detailed." Could you explain for me what sets them above ML in these categories?

 

Deathstroke looks to be the best looking figure in their line-up to this point but can you really say he's better than Deadpool? What makes the Batman and Green Lantern figures that much better than Forge or Symbiote Spider-Man?

 

All I'm saying is that ML needs to succeed no matter who is in charge of it. If it doesn't Marvel and Hasbro will focus on the less expensive alternative and not look back until after a few years have passed. I mean what did it take, almost four years from the height of '90's Toy-Biz until the start of Legends?

 

 

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I don't have to be hating to say DCUC look inferior. And even if I chose to hate, this is exactly where it should be done. My observations shouldn't make you nervous.

 

I'm hearing some pretty vague praise for DCUC: "more solid figures," and "much more detailed." Could you explain for me what sets them above ML in these categories?

 

Deathstroke looks to be the best looking figure in their line-up to this point but can you really say he's better than Deadpool? What makes the Batman and Green Lantern figures that much better than Forge or Symbiote Spider-Man?

 

All I'm saying is that ML needs to succeed no matter who is in charge of it. If it doesn't Marvel and Hasbro will focus on the less expensive alternative and not look back until after a few years have passed. I mean what did it take, almost four years from the height of '90's Toy-Biz until the start of Legends?

 

 

why would i get nervous because chunkylover doesnt like dcuc? the praise thats been given is no more vague than the praise that youve provided for marvel. counter talking the subject doesnt prove a thing.

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I'm a comic book aficionado before I became a collector of figures. I have read Marvel and DC books through the years. And I can say this, the better product in the market will prevail. Mattel's DC Universe is starting to level the playing field and starting to tilt the 6" market in their favor because of several factors. One of them bringing a lot of fresh new characters coming off the production line. Secondly, first rate sculpts care of the Four HorseMen Studios. Third, their BAFs are starting to get bigger and better than Marvel Legends' offerings. They have a whole catalog of unproduced characters unlike Hasbro. And get this, . . . .they haven't gotten to the Image Universe characters yet. DC owns the license to such teams/characters from WildStorm Studios such as W.I.L.D.C.A.Ts, Gen13, Wetworks, etc. Can't wait to see Sister Zealot, the Coda, Lord Emp, Spartan, Grifter and Caitlin Fairchild in the not so distant future. For me, if the figure is a close interpretation of the print medium, then it fits my taste and I acquire the product for my shelf. I got into collecting action figures because of the overall presentation. FO Hulk did it to me two years ago at a WalMart. That figure just caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. It just jumps right at ya like straight out of the pages of the comic book and that is my standard, great sculpting and visual appeal ! Four HorseMen rules !

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why would i get nervous because chunkylover doesnt like dcuc? the praise thats been given is no more vague than the praise that youve provided for marvel. counter talking the subject doesnt prove a thing.

 

I didn't set out to praise ML in the first place. I said the 6" line would not be deemed viable if Legends were to fail. You and others said DCUC would attract those spurned by the 3-3/4" figures. I said they wouldn't attract me and stated my reasoning.

 

Perhaps I was not as precise as I could have been when talking about 6" viability, so I'll reiterate just to clear any confusion. If Marvel Legends fails, then the 6" Marvel Line will be deemed to have no market niche. That will mean the 6" Legends line will end.

 

If this happens, the 3-3/4" line will have success in attracting fans of Marvel and fans of G. I. Joe interested in adding diverse characters to their collection.

 

DCUC will only pick up fans of DC comics or of the characters themselves, just like Marvel Legends did when it began. Once DC gets out all their popular first-tier characters and starts going to figures like Aqua Lad or the Wonder Twins then they will experience the same problems as ML is after nearly a decade of production.

 

I'm a comic book aficionado before I became a collector of figures. I have read Marvel and DC books through the years. And I can say this, the better product in the market will prevail. Mattel's DC Universe is starting to level the playing field and starting to tilt the 6" market in their favor because of several factors. One of them bringing a lot of fresh new characters coming off the production line.

 

My point exactly.

 

 

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

 

i respect that bro! i truly do. i LOVE batman, but i wont just buy anything they make of him. i did just buy this a coule of days ago though.(bat pod)

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

Well, I also don't collect, "just because," but I am a completist and specifically a Marvel fan. The only reason I began collecting Legends is because I knew the characters from my youth and they were absolutely perfect in nearly every regard.

 

When the DCUC were release I had considered collecting them but knew that once I started I wouldn't want to stop until the line ended. Just because I prefer Marvel doesn't mean I hate DC.

 

In this regard we are both exhibiting the same behavior: judging our purchases based on economic consideration. You don't buy what you don't want and neither do I.

 

With that said, I am a more reliable purchaser of Legends than you are and probably better represent the core of the Legends fan base. I won't blindly accept a 3-3/4" line as equivalent nor will I jump ship to DC.

 

If Legends ends I will save money. If it continues and Hasbro continues to provide quality figures I will keep buying them. Win-win for me.

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

 

i respect that bro! i truly do. i LOVE batman, but i wont just buy anything they make of him. i did just buy this a coule of days ago though.(bat pod)

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I love that pic, but can he turn his head and look forward and not crash his bike? Or does he have an LCD display to show where he's headed ?

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

 

i respect that bro! i truly do. i LOVE batman, but i wont just buy anything they make of him. i did just buy this a coule of days ago though.(bat pod)

Picture2569.jpg

I love that pic, but can he turn his head and look forward and not crash his bike? Or does he have an LCD display to show where he's headed ?

 

his head turns, but its a ball joint. the design of the costume(movie accurate) doesnt allow him to look up that much. :sad:

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

Well, I also don't collect, "just because," but I am a completist and specifically a Marvel fan. The only reason I began collecting Legends is because I knew the characters from my youth and they were absolutely perfect in nearly every regard.

 

When the DCUC were release I had considered collecting them but knew that once I started I wouldn't want to stop until the line ended. Just because I prefer Marvel doesn't mean I hate DC.

 

In this regard we are both exhibiting the same behavior: judging our purchases based on economic consideration. You don't buy what you don't want and neither do I.

 

With that said, I am a more reliable purchaser of Legends than you are and probably better represent the core of the Legends fan base. I won't blindly accept a 3-3/4" line as equivalent nor will I jump ship to DC.

 

If Legends ends I will save money. If it continues and Hasbro continues to provide quality figures I will keep buying them. Win-win for me.

 

I too am more of a marvel fan but but i do like dc and because of that i had to collect dc classics. i knew that down the road i would want them and did not want to back track and pay more money for them.

 

besides they look astronomically great!

aint that right pooda?

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

Well, I also don't collect, "just because," but I am a completist and specifically a Marvel fan. The only reason I began collecting Legends is because I knew the characters from my youth and they were absolutely perfect in nearly every regard.

 

When the DCUC were release I had considered collecting them but knew that once I started I wouldn't want to stop until the line ended. Just because I prefer Marvel doesn't mean I hate DC.

 

In this regard we are both exhibiting the same behavior: judging our purchases based on economic consideration. You don't buy what you don't want and neither do I.

 

With that said, I am a more reliable purchaser of Legends than you are and probably better represent the core of the Legends fan base. I won't blindly accept a 3-3/4" line as equivalent nor will I jump ship to DC.

 

If Legends ends I will save money. If it continues and Hasbro continues to provide quality figures I will keep buying them. Win-win for me.

 

I too am more of a marvel fan but but i do like dc and because of that i had to collect dc classics. i knew that down the road i would want them and did not want to back track and pay more money for them.

 

besides they look astronomically great!

aint that right pooda?

 

 

 

YES SIRRRR! i collect dc because i grew up on dc. i was born in 1979, and besides mego, super powers was the 1st, and most known figs ever! secret wars came after shortly, but dc had a cartoon where all of their universe came together. marvel had spidey, and a few other odds and ends...but dc had the most iconic characters. almost everyone born beore 83 first superheroes were probally supes. hell...he had the 1st superhero movie. if mattel does what hasbro is doing, then ill complain bout them too!

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Well, I don't collect action figures just coz and definitely not a completist. I am neither a rabid Marvel fan or a DC diehard, but I do know when a figure is worth my dollars be it Marvel Legend or DC Universe. So, I have not bought any recent Marvel Legend lately from the newer waves besides Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom. and Ares from (4 Horsemen) DC Universe. If they stand out, and catches my attention then I buy them. My latest acquisition being that 12" bundle of awesomeness, Master Chief (HALO 3) that I spotted in a Fred Meyer store. Pure joy to dsiplay in my pad.

 

Well, I also don't collect, "just because," but I am a completist and specifically a Marvel fan. The only reason I began collecting Legends is because I knew the characters from my youth and they were absolutely perfect in nearly every regard.

 

When the DCUC were release I had considered collecting them but knew that once I started I wouldn't want to stop until the line ended. Just because I prefer Marvel doesn't mean I hate DC.

 

In this regard we are both exhibiting the same behavior: judging our purchases based on economic consideration. You don't buy what you don't want and neither do I.

 

With that said, I am a more reliable purchaser of Legends than you are and probably better represent the core of the Legends fan base. I won't blindly accept a 3-3/4" line as equivalent nor will I jump ship to DC.

 

If Legends ends I will save money. If it continues and Hasbro continues to provide quality figures I will keep buying them. Win-win for me.

 

I too am more of a marvel fan but but i do like dc and because of that i had to collect dc classics. i knew that down the road i would want them and did not want to back track and pay more money for them.

 

besides they look astronomically great!

aint that right pooda?

 

 

 

YES SIRRRR! i collect dc because i grew up on dc. i was born in 1979, and besides mego, super powers was the 1st, and most known figs ever! secret wars came after shortly, but dc had a cartoon where all of their universe came together. marvel had spidey, and a few other odds and ends...but dc had the most iconic characters. almost everyone born beore 83 first superheroes were probally supes. hell...he had the 1st superhero movie. if mattel does what hasbro is doing, then ill complain bout them too!

 

 

i go further back my exposure was to the first spiderman cartoon when it aired in the 70's

but on another not if you take any of the figures we had back then and compare art and sculpt its amazing how far we have come. thats why i really dont complain much 'cause im reall excited to be getting the figures we have. i used to collect the 5" figures and thought they were the greatest thing and when ml came out i refused to collect them then 2 years later i couldnt help myself they were just tooo cool. and now we have dc we are geting spoiled!

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Not to hate dc, but i only collect marvel legends and for a brief while i collected the legendary heroes line that toy biz did after ML. I will not under any circumstances buy the 3 3/4" line. However i do work at the local wal-mart and would consider buying them, and returning them damaged so they couldnt be sold just to show hasbro how mad they make me.

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I'm a comic book aficionado before I became a collector of figures. I have read Marvel and DC books through the years. And I can say this, the better product in the market will prevail. Mattel's DC Universe is starting to level the playing field and starting to tilt the 6" market in their favor because of several factors. One of them bringing a lot of fresh new characters coming off the production line. Secondly, first rate sculpts care of the Four HorseMen Studios. Third, their BAFs are starting to get bigger and better than Marvel Legends' offerings. They have a whole catalog of unproduced characters unlike Hasbro. And get this, . . . .they haven't gotten to the Image Universe characters yet. DC owns the license to such teams/characters from WildStorm Studios such as W.I.L.D.C.A.Ts, Gen13, Wetworks, etc. Can't wait to see Sister Zealot, the Coda, Lord Emp, Spartan, Grifter and Caitlin Fairchild in the not so distant future. For me, if the figure is a close interpretation of the print medium, then it fits my taste and I acquire the product for my shelf. I got into collecting action figures because of the overall presentation. FO Hulk did it to me two years ago at a WalMart. That figure just caught my attention out of the corner of my eye. It just jumps right at ya like straight out of the pages of the comic book and that is my standard, great sculpting and visual appeal ! Four HorseMen rules !

 

exactly, i have tons of baf parts because i am a picky collector. the only one i have finished is red hulk only because i wanted most of the figs and said "why not".

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IMO the best route is to try to copy DC's forumla. They have a 3.75 and 6 inch line going side by side. Care to guess which is selling better? They also need to get a good dozen somewhat generic molds that cen be tooled to no end and start reuseing them. WWE and DC have proven that u can reuse molds up the ass and make some of the most successfull and sought after lines. Now granted DC has an entire universe to do and marvels taken care of a good portion of theirs, I still think Marvel can survive on a fan requested charcters, New or retooled rereleases (I don't think anyones apposed to another deadpool in any form, exe) and New versions of all the standard people we already have six dozen of. It's the simpelest formula to follow and I'm hopeing once the 3.75 line flounders into the abyss we get full attension to the 6 inch line again. I'm sure were still gonna get 2 packs and a random exclusive repaint/kit bash wave or 2 next year.

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IMO the best route is to try to copy DC's forumla. They have a 3.75 and 6 inch line going side by side. Care to guess which is selling better? They also need to get a good dozen somewhat generic molds that cen be tooled to no end and start reuseing them. WWE and DC have proven that u can reuse molds up the ass and make some of the most successfull and sought after lines. Now granted DC has an entire universe to do and marvels taken care of a good portion of theirs, I still think Marvel can survive on a fan requested charcters, New or retooled rereleases (I don't think anyones apposed to another deadpool in any form, exe) and New versions of all the standard people we already have six dozen of. It's the simpelest formula to follow and I'm hopeing once the 3.75 line flounders into the abyss we get full attension to the 6 inch line again. I'm sure were still gonna get 2 packs and a random exclusive repaint/kit bash wave or 2 next year.

 

wouldnt that be great?

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dc collectors is the reason mattels contrct was able to go beyond just supes/bats. dc direct was out voted like 2 -1. dc only has a hand full of characters that appeal to children.(supes, bats, flash, robin,) this is actually true for marvel as well.(hulk, wolvey, spidey, and now ironman.) so mattel see the reason for a collectors line....dont know hasbros problem.

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so its basic commonsense, ml's need to be a collectors line which would mean we as the collectors would have to support it. they would have to satisfy us in both sculpt and articulation and i say that because some of us want more of a better sculpt than articulation. sometimes because of articulation sculpt has been sacrificed and the figure looks horrible (just look at how long warbird is).and then some of you want as much articulation as you can get, which i understand you like to pose your figures into scenes, which by the way i have seen some of them and they look really cool.

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