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Only rule is that you be realistic, and follow the trends of the ML 2012 revival.

 

*6 or 7 figures per wave

*Two running change/alternate characters

*Two variants/alternate costumes

*Female character is traditionally a running change to get two females out of one "slot" in the wave

*One build-a-figure (can be large, average, or mini)

*Can also be remakes of previously done ML characters that need a makeover.

 

 

My waves:

 

Wave 1

Colossus / High Evolutionary (running change) (Marvel's game-changers!)

Polaris / Scarlet Witch (running change) (Magneto's heiresses!)

Mr. Fantastic (classic blue uniform / Future Foundation variant) (both with "stretched" interchangeable parts)

Thing (classic blue leotard / Future Foundation variant)

Luke Cage (Modern)

Ultron (classic)

Magneto (classic; revised sculpt) (doesn't contain BAF part)

Mini BAF - Franklin Richards (Future Foundation)

 

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Wave 2

X-23 (X-Force) / Jubilee (running change) (Young mutants!)

Justice / Speedball (running change) (New Warriors!)

Hawkeye (classic / Ultimate variant)

Human Torch (partially flamed on) (Future Foundation Johnny Storm / Invaders "no face" fully flamed on variant)

Enchantress

Black Panther (classic)

Thunderstrike (Eric Masterson) (doesn't contain BAF part)

BAF - Skurge the Executioner

 

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Wave 3

Crystal / Medusa (running change) (Marvel's Inhumans!)

Northstar / Sunfire (classic) (running change) (Mutant hotheads!)

Invisible Woman (classic blue uniform / Future Foundation variant) (both with "invisible/phasing" interchangeable parts)

Nightcrawler (classic / AOA X-Force variant)

Namor (X-Men costume)

Black Bolt (revised sculpt)

Madrox the Multiple Man (doesn't contain BAF part)

BAF - Lockjaw

 

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Wave 4

Rogue (Jim Lee costume) / Dazzler (blue leotard/brown "x" jacket) (running change) (Mutant beauties!)

Shatterstar / Rictor (running change) (Mutant mercenaries!)

Professor X (jumpsuit)

Iron Man (Bleeding Edge armor)

Nova (Annihilation)

Baron Zemo II

Aurora & Puck (two-pack, doesn't contain BAF piece)

BAF - Professor X's hoverchair

 

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Wave 5

Shaman / Dr. Strange (running change) (Marvel's mystics!)

Blink / Mockingbird (running change) (Fierce heroines!)

Iron Patriot (Norman Osborn interchangeable head)

Magma

Grim Reaper

Darkhawk

Dark Spider-Man (doesn't contain BAF part)

BAF - Box (Alpha Flight)

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Nice thread ill try my best

1. Carnage(Flash venom running change)

2. Pixie(Jubilee running change)

3. Multiple man

4. Penance(speedball variant)

5. Dr. Nemesis

6. Longshot(shatterstar variant)

7. Kid Omega(Kid Gladiator running change)

BAF- Strong Guy

 

Wave 2 (Xmen wave)

1. Emma Frost(Majik running change)

2.Cable updated(xman running change)

3. Cypher(douglock variant)

4. Iceman updated spikey look(classic variant)

5. Mageneto

6. Cyclops phoenix force

7. Colossus juggernaut power

BAF- Stryfe

 

Wave 3(Avengers wave)

1. Hawkeye(ultimate variant)

2. Luke cage

3. Ms Marvel(Scarlet witch running change)

3. Wonderman(purple variant)

4. Black panther

5. Marvel now Iron man(Capt america running change)

6. Marvel now Thor

7.Nova

BAF-Ultron

 

Wave 4 (weapon x)

1. Maverick(agent zero variant)

2. Sabertooth updated(classic 90s variant)

3. Weapon x wolverine

4. X23(Lady deathstrike running change)

5. Deadpool agent of weapon x

6. Kane

7. Chamber

BAF- Romulus

 

Wave 5

1. Hulkling(wicken running change)

2. Silver samurai

3. Cannonball(exploading torso variant)

4. Starlord

5. rogue(Kitty pryde running change)

6 Gambit current( long haired 90s variant)

7. Winter soldier

BAF- Thanos

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Boring day at work, this is perfect to kill time.

 

1

Feral/Wolvesbane

Shatterstar

Dazzler/ Polaris

Jubilee

Chamber

Silver Samurai

 

BAF Strong Guy

 

2

A better Blackbolt

Karnack

Medusa/Enchantress

Shang-chi

Jack o Hearts/ Swordsman

Hellcat

 

BAF Lockjaw

 

3

Shaman

North Star

Aurora/ Snowbird

The Hood

Purple man / Negative man

Grim reaper

 

Mini BAF Puck

 

4

Rom

Arno stark

X-51 (Earth X)

Kill raven

Venom (Earth X)

Deaths head

morph (exiles)

 

BAF Red Ronin

 

 

5

Bug

Captain Universe

Starlord

Rocket raccoon/ Pip the troll

Gomorra/ Moondragon

Quasar

 

BAF Groot

 

And bonus army builder 4-pack

 

A.I.M. goon

Hydra goon

Multiple man

Classic Doombot

 

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Like this thread!

 

Wave 1:

1. Jubilee

2. Colossus: (A Vs. X)

3. Quasar

4. Norman Osborn: (Iron Patriot)

5. Nightmare

6. Night thrasher

7. Venom

BAF: (Mini) Rocket Raccoon

 

Wave 2:

1. Mockingbird

2. Luke Cage: (Modern)

3. Dr. Strange

4. Kingpin

5. Red Skull

6. Falcon: (Modern)

7. Diamondback

BAF: Groot

 

Wave 3:

1. NightHawk

2. Starlord

3. Emma Frost

4. Sabertooth

5. Black Panther

6. Rogue

7. Black Cat

BAF: Sauron

 

Wave 4:

1. Ms. Marvel

2. Cable

3. Dazzler

4. DarkHawk

5. Carnage

6. Baron Zemo (Modern)

7. Bishop

BAF: Slayback

 

Wave 5:

1. Shatterstar

2. Nuke

3. Silver Samurai

4. Mr. Fantastic

5. Magik

6. Spiderman

7. Wolvesbane

BAF: Thanos

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Problem is All these fantasy lists are missing the Main Realistic part that Follows the Trend of ML 2012 Revival, the SELLERS. None of these lists are Realistic Because Hasbro has learned that big Names (SELLERS) must be in every wave. Also the figure that doesn't come with a BaF piece should be one of the Sellers, Thor, Spider Man, Etc... So Magneto would not be one. Sellers would of coures be some form or Alternate Rendition of Spider-man, Thor, Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America

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Problem is All these fantasy lists are missing the Main Realistic part that Follows the Trend of ML 2012 Revival, the SELLERS. None of these lists are Realistic Because Hasbro has learned that big Names (SELLERS) must be in every wave. Also the figure that doesn't come with a BaF piece should be one of the Sellers, Thor, Spider Man, Etc... So Magneto would not be one. Sellers would of coures be some form or Alternate Rendition of Spider-man, Thor, Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America

 

I don't particularly mind it either. It means I can keep adding Iron Man armors to my armory!

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Problem is All these fantasy lists are missing the Main Realistic part that Follows the Trend of ML 2012 Revival, the SELLERS. None of these lists are Realistic Because Hasbro has learned that big Names (SELLERS) must be in every wave. Also the figure that doesn't come with a BaF piece should be one of the Sellers, Thor, Spider Man, Etc... So Magneto would not be one. Sellers would of coures be some form or Alternate Rendition of Spider-man, Thor, Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America

This is true. The running changes also have the same basic base with minor tweaks and different head sculpts. Variants are usually just repaints or maybe a masked or unmasked character. Some these suggestions are obvious and great like Polaris/ Scarlet Witch and Longshot/ Shatterstar modern of course. But classic Hawkeye/ Ultimate variant wouldn't work for HB simply because their costumes are too different. We'd like to see it though. Some of the smaller guns listed we may not see because they've already been done before and like he said aren't SELLERS to the general masses. But check some of the lists we did on this topic a few months ago before the SDCC. We've done this a few times already and we hope our lists may change soon because we got what we want.

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I chose to theme my waves. I think it would be a cool idea for Hasbro and Marvel, given who the core Avengers in the movie were. I know that doesn't really matter, but from a marketing standpoint I think it is smart. They can release the waves as listed below to sorta coincide with the sequel releases of the Marvel Phase 2.

 

Iron Man Themed

-Bleeding Edge Iron Man/Iron Man 2.0 War Machine (Running Change)

-Rescue/Rescue Unmasked Pepper Pots Head (Variant) (Ultimo Left Leg)

-Iron Patriot/Iron Patriot Unmasked Norman Osborn Head (Variant) (Ultimo Right Leg)

-The Mandarin (Ultimo Head, Groin)

-Classic Iron Monger (Ultimo Torso)

-Iron Man Hydro Armor/Iron Man Space Armor (Running Change) (Ultimo Left Leg)

-Guardsman Armor (Ultimo Right Leg)

-BAF = Ultimo

 

Thor Themed

-Classic Odin (Surtur Head, Groin, Sword)

-Enchantress/Sif (Running Change) (Surtur Left Leg)

-Beta Ray Bill/Thunderstrike (Running Change) (Surture Right Leg)

-Skurge The Executioner (Surtur Left Arm)

-Destroyer Armor/Destroyer Armor Thor (Variant) (Surtur Right Arm)

-Classic Loki (Surtur Torso)

-Classic Thor/Thor Lord of Asgard (Variant) (No BAF Piece)

-BAF = Surtur

 

-Special Warriors Three - 3 Pack

-Classic Fandral

-Classic Hogun

-Classic Volstagg

 

Captain America Themed

-Classic Captain America

-Classic Bucky/Classic Winter Soldier (Running Change)

-Classic Red Skull/Modern Red Skull (Variant)

-Crossbones

-Classic Barron Zemo/Modern Barron Zemo (Variant)

-A.I.M. Soldier/Hydra Soldier (Running Change)

-Captain Britain

-BAF = Updated MODOK

 

Hulk Themed

-Classic Incredible Hulk/Classic Grey Hulk (Variant)

-Rick Jones

-The Abomination/Bi-Beast (Running Change)

-The Leader

-Absorbing Man Plain Skin/Absorbing Man Metal Skin/Absorbing Man Rock Skin (Variants)

-Moonstone/Betty Ross (Running Change)

-Wendigo

-BAF = Updated Red Hulk

 

Avengers Themed

-First Appearance Iron Man (New Version of original grey suit)/Gold Iron Man (With added skirt and antena) (Variant)

-Wasp (Full Size with miniature version included)/Scarlet Witch (Running Change)

-Classic Hawkeye

-Classic Vision/Phasing Vision (Variant)

-Ant-Man/Black Panther (Running Change)

-Classic Ultron

-Kang the Conqueror

-BAF = Super-Adaptoid

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Problem is All these fantasy lists are missing the Main Realistic part that Follows the Trend of ML 2012 Revival, the SELLERS. None of these lists are Realistic Because Hasbro has learned that big Names (SELLERS) must be in every wave. Also the figure that doesn't come with a BaF piece should be one of the Sellers, Thor, Spider Man, Etc... So Magneto would not be one. Sellers would of coures be some form or Alternate Rendition of Spider-man, Thor, Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America

 

I was very aware of this fact when making my picks, I didnt actually make them realistic I was more stating waves that I wanted to see dont think many of the figures will happen but I can dream. I actually didnt mind the lack of BAF this wave because of the fact that I dont have to buy all the figures to make the BAF. Im not a completest I have bought figures I didnt really want just to complete a team but I dont need to get every Iron man,Caps,or Hulks when I already have great ones already. Having said that I completely understand why they do it to satisfy casual fans and kids along with collectors and sell more product doesnt mean im gonna drop 16 bucks for a figure I dont want though(unless to build a figure though).

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Problem is All these fantasy lists are missing the Main Realistic part that Follows the Trend of ML 2012 Revival, the SELLERS. None of these lists are Realistic Because Hasbro has learned that big Names (SELLERS) must be in every wave. Also the figure that doesn't come with a BaF piece should be one of the Sellers, Thor, Spider Man, Etc... So Magneto would not be one. Sellers would of coures be some form or Alternate Rendition of Spider-man, Thor, Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk and Captain America

 

The figure that doesn't contain the BAF part on my lists was determined by me as the one that would likely sell without containing one. I think everyone would want a new Magneto that wasn't based on the ToyBiz ML1 Iron Man body. Multiple Man is an army builder, which would leave a surplus of a BAF part if it contained one. Puck wouldn't be justified in my mind as being large enough to sell on his own, so he became a pack-in. I toyed with the idea of making him a mini-BAF, but preferred to establish the other BAFs that I listed.

 

As for the "sellers" category, the anchor character of each wave, I considered the Fantastic Four characters some of the tentpole characters of the waves.

 

Wave 1: Mr. Fantastic / Thing

Wave 2: Human Torch / Thunderstrike (a version of Thor)

Wave 3: Invisible Woman / Namor

Wave 4: Iron Man

Wave 5: Iron Patriot (a version of Iron Man) / Dark Spider-Man (a version of Spider-Man)

 

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IDK about 5 waves but let's see...

1. LUKE EFFING CAGE

2. Mockingbird

3. Classic Hawkeye....same as the original TB version but a Hasbro design....Cap/US Agent base would work.

4. Spiderman - no bells and whistles, just straight up, plain ol red/blue Spidey w/ loads of articulation and no gimmicks

 

5. Red Skull - I prefer the green jumpsuit but any rendition is fine

6. X-23

7. All star figure is a HYDRA agent, similar to the one that came in the 3 pack for MU. No BAF piece, 2 per case

 

variants: Dark Hawkeye & X Force X 23

running change - Warbird for Mockingbird (I'm not a fan of the TB version)

BAF - Hercules

 

wave 2:

1. Secret Avengers Beast

2. Mr. Sinister (original look)

3. Cyclops (Jim Lee, 90s style. I have an amazing custom but this guy is long overdue)

4. Professor X

5. Wolverine - ummm...whatever they want. We'll say a re-release of the Red Hulk series w/ modified shoulder pads and a better paint job

6. Sebastian Shaw

7. All star figure is a HELLFIRE CLUB AGENT. again, 2 per case

 

variant - Wolverine w/ BONE claws (same outfit, subtle change, maybe even have him unmasked?)

running change would be titled simply "then & now" and would feature a 90s Beast & Modern Mr. Sinister

 

BAF is tricky. 3 characters come w/ pieces to build....Prof X HOVER CHAIR. One other w/ Cerebro headpiece, two others w/ a computer or screen type thing

 

 

wave 3.

1. Mr. Fantastic - "classic"

2. Sue Storm - "classic." For God's sake can we get a GOOD CLASSIC SUE STORM!?!??

3. Flash Thompson Venom

4. CLASSIC Captain America. Take the Bucky Mold, paint that mofo up to look like he should!

5. Baron Zemo II - long long long overdue and would be worth the wait

6. modern Cable - hell, take the MU and upsize it. It's perfect

7. All star figure is a SHIELD AGENT. 2 per case (see where I'm going w/ these???)

 

running change figures: - Mr. Fantastic, Future Foundation. more of a running change than a variant, want the ratio even

Sue Storm - Future Foundation. again...see Mr. Fantastic

Bishop - running change to Cable. Marvel's Time Traveling Soldiers

 

variant. dum dum dummmmm - Sue Storm. clear, color plastic like phasing Vision

BAF - THING....hear me out....Zemo, Cap & Venom come w/ right & left arms and one of them gets the head. Classic sue comes with torso/blue crotch piece, Mr. Fantastic comes w/ a blue leg and cable comes w/ a blue leg. THEN....the running changes....FF/invisible sue comes w/ torso/white crotch piece, Mr. Fantastic comes w/ a white leg & bishop w/ the other white leg. I've just given you a complete classic Fantastic Four AND Future Foundation. Send money to my Paypal. I'm a marketing genius.

 

and on that note, i'm done. I left Iron Patriot out because I HAVE to believe he'll be in the upcoming Iron Man legends line.

 

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No your right, but I was basing my post off the OP. Not to be a Dick, but just restating what he was going for......but then again he doesn't follow it either. I was just thinking about real predictions on the Trend Hasbro seems to be going with these Days. It is a make or Break Toy Line after all.

 

Yeh I get what your saying and although im happy with the majority of figures weve been getting I still can't bring myself to take the time to think of 5 waves and have to include another iron man,cap,or hulk I just started thinking bout it and get carried away thinking of all the figures i want.

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Yeh I get what your saying and although im happy with the majority of figures weve been getting I still can't bring myself to take the time to think of 5 waves and have to include another iron man,cap,or hulk I just started thinking bout it and get carried away thinking of all the figures i want.

 

Yeah I feel you, I Like MrDizzels he took the time in threw in the Sellers. I know its Pain full to hear Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk Cap, and spider-man but hey at least we are getting them.

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Yeah I feel you, I Like MrDizzels he took the time in threw in the Sellers. I know its Pain full to hear Iron man, Wolverine, Hulk Cap, and spider-man but hey at least we are getting them.

 

Dont get me wrong I totally agree with you there and even though I have plenty of those figures ill pick up the ones I like but im not a completist anymore I just buy the ones I want to save money (unless i want the BAF). I was mostly just listing what I want to see different I still enjoy seeing different versions of the greats but sometimes I just think thats one more spot that could of went to some needs or desperately needed updates(iceman ect.). But as a collector as long as we went without legends it is good to see any at all.

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Wave 1

Classic reed Richards/ FF Reed

Magik/magma

Jim Lee Gambit/ Jim lee Cyclops

Some form of captain America

Blink/pixie

 

BAF STRONG GUY

 

Wave 2

Classic sue storm/ FF Sue

Classic sunfire/partially flamed Johnny storm

Classic Avalanche

Polaris/scarlet witch

Some form of Iron man

Marrow

 

BAF: SAURON

 

Wave 3

Morph

Aurora/snowbird

North star

Lilandra

Magneto New body

Gladiator/silver samurai

 

Mini BAF: PUCK

 

Wave 4

Emma frost/ Dazzler

Prof x with Hoover chair

Sebastian Shaw

X man

Some form Spiderman

Jim lee rogue/ ms marvel

 

BAF: SHADOWKING

 

Wave 5

FA storm/ Mohawk punk variant

Jubilee/shadowcar

DOFP WOLVERINE

Thunderbird

Carnage

Hawkeye

 

BAF THANOS

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1) Primarily Villains because they would sell

Magneto (anchor, no BAF piece but a few accessories: a bendable chain, steel girder, flgiht stand)

Sebastian Shaw

Grey Gargoyle

Whirlwind (classic)

Deathbird/ Snowbird variant (had to throw a hero in there)

AIM agent

Silver Samurai

BAF: Dragon Man (brand new sculpt and should be bigger than the Hulk)

 

2) Fan's Most Wanted:

Ben Reilly as Spider-Man (an actual good one with web accessories)

Nighthawk

Annihilation Nova/ Starlord variant

Hellfire Club Mercenary (Inner Circle Goon label for selling purposes)

Tombstone

Modern Luke Cage

Silvermane in cyber suit

BAF: Blastaar

 

3) Secret Wars

First Appearance Storm/ Mohawk Storm variant - anchor, no BAF piece

Hawkeye

Titania/ Thundra variant

Enchantress

Rogue (Secret Wars uniform)

SKurge

BAF: Ulik

 

4) Avengers Academy

Gauntlet

Armor (X-Men)

Mettle

Illuminati Skrull

Cobra

Tigershark

Blink

BAF: Stature

 

5) Thunderbolts:

Norman Osborn Iron Patriot (swappable heads)

Moonstone/ Songbird

Radioactive Man (current costume)

Swordsman/ Citizen V variant

Modern Havok (anchor, no BAF piece, cosmic energy blasts)

Grim Reaper

Safari Jacket Wonder Man

BAF: Atlas

 

 

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Wave 1 - Streets Of NYC

 

1) Luke Cage (modern) / Tombstone (running change)

2) Prowler

3) Hammerhead

4) The Hood / Mr. Fear (running change)

5) Paladin

6) Lady Bullseye / Typhoid Mary (running change)

7) Shang-Chi

 

BAF - Ox of Enforcers

 

Wave 2 - Welcome To The Westside

 

1) Moon Knight (modern version) / Phantom Rider (running change)

2) Count Nefaria

3) Mockingbird / Echo (running change)

4) Hawkeye (classic version)

5) Nomad (90s version)

6) Brother Grimm / variant with different facial expression

7) Shroud

 

BAF - Mr. Hyde

 

Wave 3 - When It Gets Dark...

 

1) Doctor Strange (modern) / Baron Mordo (running change)

2) Brother Voodoo

3) Morbius (modern)

4) Hellstrom

5) Blackout

6) Satana / Clea (running change)

7) Scarecrow

 

BAF - Dormammu

 

Wave 4 - High Stakes Always

 

1) Nighthawk

2) Scarlet Witch (modern) / Polaris (running change)

3) Namor (X-Men)

4) Red Skull (modern, with changeable Alexander Lukin head)

5) Winter Soldier

6) Nova / Starlord (running change)

7) Storm (modern)

 

BAF - Groot

 

Wave 5 - Return To The Streets Of NYC

 

1) Owl

2) Crime-Master / Mr. Negative (running change)

3) Bushwacker

4) Misty Knight / Silver Sable (running change)

5) Razorfist

6) Tiger Shark

7) Scourge (modern)

 

BAF - Silvermane

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Wave 1

1. FF Mr. Fantastic/ Ultimate Variant

2. FF Invisible Woman/ Ultimate Variant

3.Boomerang/Batroc running change

4.Gamora

5. Star-Lord

6. Mephisto

7.Ragnarok / cyborg face showing variant

 

BAF Frost Giant

 

Wave 2

1.FF Thing/Ultimate Variant

2.Flame on Human Torch / Ultimate Variant

3.Crimson Dynamo

4.Namorita/Namora running change

5.Groot with Rocket Raccoon

6.Modern Luke Cage

7.Iron Patroit

 

BAF Dragon Man

 

Wave 3

1.Lucia von Bardas

2.Kraven/Grim Hunter running change

3.Super Skrull

4.Medusa/Crystal running change

5.Gambit black suit

6.Triton

7.Noir Spider-man

 

BAF LockJaw

 

Wave 4 Original X-Men

1.Magneto

2.Mastermind

3.Cyclops

4.Marvel Girl

5.Ice-man

6.Angel

7.Beast

 

BAF Professor X Hover chair

 

Wave 5

1.Nomad/Winter Solider running change

2.Ironclad

3.Mandarin

4.Enchantress/ Female Loki running change

5.Baron Mordo

6.Red Hulk

7.Thunderstrike

 

BAF Kurse

 

 

 

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Wave 1 - Streets Of NYC

 

1) Luke Cage (modern) / Tombstone (running change)

2) Prowler

3) Hammerhead

4) The Hood / Mr. Fear (running change)

5) Paladin

6) Lady Bullseye / Typhoid Mary (running change)

7) Shang-Chi

 

BAF - Ox of Enforcers

 

Wave 2 - Welcome To The Westside

 

1) Moon Knight (modern version) / Phantom Rider (running change)

2) Count Nefaria

3) Mockingbird / Echo (running change)

4) Hawkeye (classic version)

5) Nomad (90s version)

6) Brother Grimm / variant with different facial expression

7) Shroud

 

BAF - Mr. Hyde

 

Wave 3 - When It Gets Dark...

 

1) Doctor Strange (modern) / Baron Mordo (running change)

2) Brother Voodoo

3) Morbius (modern)

4) Hellstrom

5) Blackout

6) Satana / Clea (running change)

7) Scarecrow

 

BAF - Dormammu

 

Wave 4 - High Stakes Always

 

1) Nighthawk

2) Scarlet Witch (modern) / Polaris (running change)

3) Namor (X-Men)

4) Red Skull (modern, with changeable Alexander Lukin head)

5) Winter Soldier

6) Nova / Starlord (running change)

7) Storm (modern)

 

BAF - Groot

 

Wave 5 - Return To The Streets Of NYC

 

1) Owl

2) Crime-Master / Mr. Negative (running change)

3) Bushwacker

4) Misty Knight / Silver Sable (running change)

5) Razorfist

6) Tiger Shark

7) Scourge (modern)

 

BAF - Silvermane

 

Nice. I like most of these picks.

 

For some reason i forgot about Nomad and the hood. Dont know why. Both of those would be awesome!

 

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