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On 9/12/2019 at 5:56 PM, michiganjfrog said:

Id buy it, I wonder how controversial it would be though

Would it be THAT controversial though? I get Cultural Appropriation is bad but isn’t the Adversary a true American Indian or American Indian Spirit? Seems like if it is a true representation of a groups heritage wouldn’t twist as many shorts. 

I vaguely recall this character so if I am remembering his origins wrong I apologize up front.

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Some obscure characters I’d like to see to fill out my Avengers roster are:

Silverclaw

Deathcry

Comic Mantis 

Moondragon

Shroud

Not as obscure but overdo

Tigra

Safari Wonderman

Swordsman

classic Monica Captain Marvel

In truth with some oddball choices we’ve gotten lately I may get my wish for a few of these

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1 hour ago, McHogan said:

Would it be THAT controversial though? I get Cultural Appropriation is bad but isn’t the Adversary a true American Indian or American Indian Spirit? Seems like if it is a true representation of a groups heritage wouldn’t twist as many shorts. 

I vaguely recall this character so if I am remembering his origins wrong I apologize up front.

yea i wouldn't think so either ,but it seems nowadays everything is so touchy and can snowball into controversy lol

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21 minutes ago, michiganjfrog said:

yea i wouldn't think so either ,but it seems nowadays everything is so touchy and can snowball into controversy lol

 

agreed. See it on every message board. 

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9 hours ago, nieman257 said:

I don't think we'll get Count Nefaria 

any reason why?  Seems like he would be an easy figure to make and is a pretty heavy hitting avengers villain.  Plus hasbro could  just repaint him and to make Graviton.  I'm not sure if either has been in the comics lmuch ately, the last i recall for Nefaria was his appearance in Bendis' Moon Knight run.

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11 hours ago, McHogan said:

Some obscure characters I’d like to see to fill out my Avengers roster are:

Silverclaw

Deathcry

Comic Mantis 

Moondragon

Shroud

Not as obscure but overdo

Tigra

Safari Wonderman

Swordsman

classic Monica Captain Marvel

In truth with some oddball choices we’ve gotten lately I may get my wish for a few of these

Yeah I would love to have a dark ms marvel to finish my dark avengers

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5 hours ago, bashpics99 said:

any reason why?  Seems like he would be an easy figure to make and is a pretty heavy hitting avengers villain.  Plus hasbro could  just repaint him and to make Graviton.  I'm not sure if either has been in the comics lmuch ately, the last i recall for Nefaria was his appearance in Bendis' Moon Knight run.

Neferia was last seen in Spider-Geddon while Graviton was last seen in Secret Empire and Agents of Shield. Both could easily be made and are powerful Avengers villains

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On 9/14/2019 at 4:09 AM, McHogan said:

Would it be THAT controversial though? I get Cultural Appropriation is bad but isn’t the Adversary a true American Indian or American Indian Spirit? Seems like if it is a true representation of a groups heritage wouldn’t twist as many shorts. 

I vaguely recall this character so if I am remembering his origins wrong I apologize up front.

Yeah, but he was created by white writers who were inspired by Native American stereotypes, so I can kinda see where the cultural appropriation argument is coming from. It's the same reason the classic, traditionally dressed warmonger Mandarin was changed to a cyborg in a business suit. 

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with this point of view, I think it's important to recognize the difference between purposefully hurtful stereotypes and a character like Adversary who just takes inspiration from other cultures. But from a business point of view, it makes sense why Hasbro is staying away from a potentially offensive character. Now you know why we'll never see a classic Man-Ape BAF.

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9 hours ago, WilsonFisk4President said:

Yeah, but he was created by white writers who were inspired by Native American stereotypes, so I can kinda see where the cultural appropriation argument is coming from. It's the same reason the classic, traditionally dressed warmonger Mandarin was changed to a cyborg in a business suit. 

I'm not saying I necessarily agree with this point of view, I think it's important to recognize the difference between purposefully hurtful stereotypes and a character like Adversary who just takes inspiration from other cultures. But from a business point of view, it makes sense why Hasbro is staying away from a potentially offensive character. Now you know why we'll never see a classic Man-Ape BAF.

Valid points for sure. Re-reading some stories from both a Marvel and DC (Egg-Fu smh) from the 60’s and 70’s and their portrayal of stereotypes of minorities is cringeworthy to put it mildly. 

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