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The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Emmy award winner Jessica Gao has been hired to develop and lead the writing team on She-Hulk, the Disney+ series from Marvel Studios.  Gao won an Emmy for her work on Adult Swim’s Rick and Morty.

Gao is the first to be hired for creative development for a series since it was announced by Marvel head Kevin Feige at Disney’s D23 Fan Expo.

She-Hulk is Jennifer Walters, an attorney and cousin of Bruce Banner, aka The Hulk. An emergency blood transfusion from her cousin gave Walters her powers but unlike Banner/Hulk, She-Hulk was able to keep her intelligence and personality when she Hulked out.  The She-Hulk character was the last major character to be created by Stan Lee.

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1 hour ago, mako said:

Another important life lesson from Marvel. Once you scrape the bottom of that barrel, grab a shovel and dig till you hit poop.

Sounds like they may be going with a bit of a tongue and cheek angle for this series which is not unprecedented for She-Hulk. John Byrne's run of She-Hulk in the 90's was very much that way and probably the character's most successful solo comic book series run to date.  

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1 hour ago, tarot said:

I think this is a perfect choice. Shehulk has always been a comedy character and 4th wall breaker since her solo series. She would make deadpool blush. 

But shehulk is my favourite female marvel character next to wasp so i hope they do the character justice

Yeah, She-Hulk is one of my Top 3 Marvel women, too. I wish more people—especially Deadpool and Harley Quinn fans—realized that Shulkie was doing that schtick 40 years ago. Sadly, I think many of them share the same grossly uninformed opinion of her that Batman Begins and Batman v. Superman writer David Goyer said: that she’s basically a porn star fantasy for the Hulk to sleep with. 
( Source: https://www.indiewire.com/2014/05/david-s-goyer-calls-she-hulk-a-classic-male-power-fantasy-talks-his-version-of-dcs-martian-manhunter-85578/amp/ )

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7 minutes ago, RyanDaly said:

Yeah, She-Hulk is one of my Top 3 Marvel women, too. I wish more people—especially Deadpool and Harley Quinn fans—realized that Shulkie was doing that schtick 40 years ago. Sadly, I think many of them share the same grossly uninformed opinion of her that Batman Begins and Batman v. Superman writer David Goyer said: that she’s basically a porn star fantasy for the Hulk to sleep with. 
( Source: https://www.indiewire.com/2014/05/david-s-goyer-calls-she-hulk-a-classic-male-power-fantasy-talks-his-version-of-dcs-martian-manhunter-85578/amp/ )

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LOL. Harley quinn didnt really become a sex symbol until the Suicide Squad movie... well maybe the Arkham games helped it along but she started out wearing a full on jesters costume and had an annoying squeeky voice ala BTAS where she first appeared.

As for She-Hulk the thing about her is in her own comics again in large part thanks to the Byrne run in the 90's she has that comedic/4th wall mentality similar to Deadpool, but only in her own comics. Whenever she appears in other books like Avengers, Fantastic Four or Hulk she becomes a much more serious straight edge type character. Deadpool is pretty much the same whether hes in his own title or someone else, at least now days. When he first appeared in New Mutants/X-Force he was a bit more serious character.

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37 minutes ago, mako said:

See, this is the real tragedy of She-Hulk, and really, the tragedy of modern Marvel movies as well.

She-Hulk is NOT a comedy character. If you think she is, then you have only experienced one aspect of the character from one comic series. That's like saying Bucky Barnes has always been Captain America, or Wonder Woman was always a non-powered spy who ran around in a "Mod" white jumpsuit.

But as pointed out, the Byrne series introduced the 4th wall-breaking comedy stuff.. then you have the Slott series, and the Soule series.  OTOH there's the original series, and i guess she's in a savage she-hulk type series now?   Maybe i'm forgetting some, but on balance she's mostly been in fairly light, fun runs.  Of course any number of  serious takes on She-Hulk would also make for great series in the right creators' hands.  

Personally i wish they had introduced she-hulk to the mcu during the years when the hulk was sidelined (so i guess from end of AoU onwards) as she is a great character and deserves big-budget treatment imo.   It didn't seem like the Russo bros really wanted to use Hulk for fighting much, so perhaps they could've done something cool with Jen instead.

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16 hours ago, mako said:

See, this is the real tragedy of She-Hulk, and really, the tragedy of modern Marvel movies as well.

She-Hulk is NOT a comedy character. If you think she is, then you have only experienced one aspect of the character from one comic series. That's like saying Bucky Barnes has always been Captain America, or Wonder Woman was always a non-powered spy who ran around in a "Mod" white jumpsuit.

LOL. You mean if your only exposure to the character is her solo books??? She-Hulk has never really been a major player in the MU period, and she is one of those characters that does tend to get revamped depending on who is writing her and the need of the character at the time, but the Byrne run is probably her most notable run in the comics and when she become the most popular, so it makes perfect sense that is the version they would go with in the series and that it is the version many people are familiar with. She very much is a comedy character (sometimes) so saying it like she was portrayed that way one brief time sounds like your the one trying to omit her history to make your usual anti-mcu point or maybe you just haven't read as many comics as you like to think???

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22 hours ago, JayC said:

Sounds like they may be going with a bit of a tongue and cheek angle for this series which is not unprecedented for She-Hulk. John Byrne's run of She-Hulk in the 90's was very much that way and probably the character's most successful solo comic book series run to date.  

Exactly, Byrne's run was when I fell in love with the character and her story. She was the less serious side of the whole Gamma Irradiated Monster angle the Incredible Hulk was comming from. Maybe they are looking for some twisted Rick & Morty type humor to recapture that nostalgic feel, though like Slaten writing Moon Knight, I'm concerned Disney's constraint's may spoil Gao's trademark style, which would negate the whole point of hiring her in the first place.

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10 hours ago, Bluecomet said:

She Hulk does Comedy? which multi-verse is this set in?

In a time far, faaar away when comics weren't taken as seriously as they are today and the writers weren't as jaded as they are today. Coincidentally, that was also when comics were much more entertaining and well received than they are today. Go figure.

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16 hours ago, mako said:

See, this is the real tragedy of She-Hulk, and really, the tragedy of modern Marvel movies as well.

She-Hulk is NOT a comedy character. If you think she is, then you have only experienced one aspect of the character from one comic series. That's like saying Bucky Barnes has always been Captain America, or Wonder Woman was always a non-powered spy who ran around in a "Mod" white jumpsuit.

Ironman wasn't known as comedy character (He was a drunk dick), Thor definitely wasn't known for his comedy (rather serious and stoic). Disney definitely introduced additional comedy into the Marvel Venture and that works. People who don't know who they are watching enjoy a good laugh. The MCU has taken people with likeness, Stuck them in a suit reminiscent of our favorite characters and delivered renewed characters that is good for capturing the comic readers, but also movie goers in general.  I lost interest in the MCU, but I do appreciate what they have done up till endgame (which is just my opinion that no one has to share).

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3 hours ago, mako said:

See, there it is again. Iron Man was NOT a drunk, and wasn't a dick until the whole anti-rich movement of the 90s. Yet you ask the lesser fans, and that's all they know/care about.

Well, if being a lesser fan means not being like you, I'll gladly stay a lesser fan. 

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4 minutes ago, mako said:

Once again, ONE ASPECT of the character. What, do just look at the pictures?

Lol, I just disproved you. Iron-man was constantly battling his addiction to alcohol.. That's what made him  interesting. He was dealing with his own #$##. Have you ever read a comic with him? Cause if you are just going to play devils advocate, pick a side that's harder to prove. 

 

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6 hours ago, EUPHORICVIKING said:

Ironman wasn't known as comedy character (He was a drunk dick).

Tony Stark was not a drunk dick.

His substance abuse has always been contained to the specific storylines in which he suffers a relapse (which are only a handful), he is not in a constant state of either intoxication or withdrawal, neither he's constantly bouncing back and forth between soberty and inebriation. Two of the images you posted come from the same issueIron Man #128, when he first confronts his alcoholism (which is also the first issue when it's established, 16 years after his creation, so it wasn't always a part of the character), and the other one (the "if I wasn't so wasted") comes from What If? #33, not to mention the image is taken out of context. He's saying he's wasted because Doctor Doom had just absorbed almost of all the power from his armor, not because he was drunk. And what's funny is that at a point later in this issue he's actually shown refusing to drink despite his predicament (his predicament being that he has been left stranded in old-timey Camelot).

He wasn't a dick either. Before Brian Michael Bendis turned him into a flanderized version of his MCU counterpart in 2015, Tony was always portrayed as a thoughtful, stern-but-not-cold, and level-headed person, very capable of inspiring leadership. Even at the low points of his characterization, like Civil War, Tony was shown with good intentions at heart, and constantly torn by having to make hard choices.

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1 hour ago, mako said:

Like me, in what way? Unwilling to co-op the first opinion that comes along, eat crap and call it ice cream, be bullied into towing the company line?

Whatever gets you through the night. But for what its worth, being "like you<" wouldn't exactly make my highlight reel either.

No, someone who thinks less of another because of how much they know or don't about something they both enjoy. I don't care we have different taste in entertainment, but I don't think it's fair to call MCU fans or younger fans "lesser" for not knowing everything. 

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16 hours ago, ADour said:

Tony Stark was not a drunk dick.

His substance abuse has always been contained to the specific storylines in which he suffers a relapse (which are only a handful), he is not in a constant state of either intoxication or withdrawal, neither he's constantly bouncing back and forth between soberty and inebriation. Two of the images you posted come from the same issueIron Man #128, when he first confronts his alcoholism (which is also the first issue when it's established, 16 years after his creation, so it wasn't always a part of the character), and the other one (the "if I wasn't so wasted") comes from What If? #33, not to mention the image is taken out of context. He's saying he's wasted because Doctor Doom had just absorbed almost of all the power from his armor, not because he was drunk. And what's funny is that at a point later in this issue he's actually shown refusing to drink despite his predicament (his predicament being that he has been left stranded in old-timey Camelot).

He wasn't a dick either. Before Brian Michael Bendis turned him into a flanderized version of his MCU counterpart in 2015, Tony was always portrayed as a thoughtful, stern-but-not-cold, and level-headed person, very capable of inspiring leadership. Even at the low points of his characterization, like Civil War, Tony was shown with good intentions at heart, and constantly torn by having to make hard choices.

I've seen tony slip up in the comics enough times. My point was that there are different incarnation of the same characters, based on writers, plot(PIS), time-period, relevance and what the general public are interested in. Some vary drastically, some do not.

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9 hours ago, EUPHORICVIKING said:

I've seen tony slip up in the comics enough times. My point was that there are different incarnation of the same characters, based on writers, plot(PIS), time-period, relevance and what the general public are interested in. Some vary drastically, some do not.

1) Iron Man #167 (1983)

2) Iron Man #308 (1994)

3) Fear Itself #4 (2011)

4) AXIS #5 (2014)

5) Tony Stark: Iron Man #9 (2019)

Those are all the times Tony has fallen off the wagon. I'm not sure whether or not to count Avengers Disassembled, when the Scarlet Witch made Tony magically drunk for a few moments, but he didn't actually ingest anything and there didn't seem to be any repercussions. Number 2 occurred as a result of Tony being possessed by VOR/TEX, and Number 5 occurred due to Tony being brainwashed. This leaves us with only three slips-up in which the decision to drink was actually in Tony's hands. And one of them is Number 4, which occurred because Tony's moral compass had been magically inverted, so he wasn't in the right mind when he made the choice. And Number 3 wasn't much because Tony was tempted, but rather because he offered his sobierty as a "tribute" to Odin. 

To sum up, Tony has genuinely slipped up only two times in the 40 years the character has been battling alcoholism. And only one of them came from an actual place of temptation and inability to refrain himself.

Is that really enough times to call him a "drunk dick"? Is that really?

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14 hours ago, ADour said:

1) Iron Man #167 (1983)

2) Iron Man #308 (1994)

3) Fear Itself #4 (2011)

4) AXIS #5 (2014)

5) Tony Stark: Iron Man #9 (2019)

Those are all the times Tony has fallen off the wagon. I'm not sure whether or not to count Avengers Disassembled, when the Scarlet Witch made Tony magically drunk for a few moments, but he didn't actually ingest anything and there didn't seem to be any repercussions. Number 2 occurred as a result of Tony being possessed by VOR/TEX, and Number 5 occurred due to Tony being brainwashed. This leaves us with only three slips-up in which the decision to drink was actually in Tony's hands. And one of them is Number 4, which occurred because Tony's moral compass had been magically inverted, so he wasn't in the right mind when he made the choice. And Number 3 wasn't much because Tony was tempted, but rather because he offered his sobierty as a "tribute" to Odin. 

To sum up, Tony has genuinely slipped up only two times in the 40 years the character has been battling alcoholism. And only one of them came from an actual place of temptation and inability to refrain himself.

Is that really enough times to call him a "drunk dick"? Is that really?

This is really important to you isn't it? He's not a drunk "dick". But he was never as comedic until he entered the MCU.  Also I'm pretty sure Tony making a drunk error is what lead to Norman Osborn taking over with the dark avengers....

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8 hours ago, EUPHORICVIKING said:

This is really important to you isn't it? He's not a drunk "dick". But he was never as comedic until he entered the MCU.  Also I'm pretty sure Tony making a drunk error is what lead to Norman Osborn taking over with the dark avengers....

I'm just countering misinformation. That it involves my favorite character being mischaracterized does provide some motivation, yes. And also that you did berate another user with "Have you ever read a comic with him?" when, to be honest and without ill-intent, I'm kinda asking myself this.

As for Dark Reign, it had nothing to do with Tony's alcoholism. The Skrulls infiltrated the Earth without anybody knowing, and Tony took the fall because he was basically in charge of the superhuman community during this time so technically is was his job to see this coming (again, despite the fact nobody did). The only reason Norman Osborn took his place is because he was in the right place at the right moment, and was the one who dealt the final blow to the Skrull queen on live TV.

I do agree that Tony was not comedic until he entered the MCU, and it's a pity. At least his characterization survived until 2015. It was with Brian Michael Bendis' run that Tony effectively became an imitation of RDJ's portrayal of the character. Previous writers had managed to keep him more or less in line with his pre-MCU characterization.

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15 hours ago, ADour said:

I'm just countering misinformation. That it involves my favorite character being mischaracterized does provide some motivation, yes. And also that you did berate another user with "Have you ever read a comic with him?" when, to be honest and without ill-intent, I'm kinda asking myself this.

As for Dark Reign, it had nothing to do with Tony's alcoholism. The Skrulls infiltrated the Earth without anybody knowing, and Tony took the fall because he was basically in charge of the superhuman community during this time so technically is was his job to see this coming (again, despite the fact nobody did). The only reason Norman Osborn took his place is because he was in the right place at the right moment, and was the one who dealt the final blow to the Skrull queen on live TV.

I do agree that Tony was not comedic until he entered the MCU, and it's a pity. At least his characterization survived until 2015. It was with Brian Michael Bendis' run that Tony effectively became an imitation of RDJ's portrayal of the character. Previous writers had managed to keep him more or less in line with his pre-MCU characterization.

If memory serves me right, Tony was drunk at the podium giving a speech, it was then he was relieved of his duty and replace with Norman Osborne. I may have to go back, but I thought that's what happened. 

 

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3 hours ago, EUPHORICVIKING said:

If memory serves me right, Tony was drunk at the podium giving a speech, it was then he was relieved of his duty and replace with Norman Osborne. I may have to go back, but I thought that's what happened. 

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... When Tony was drunk at a podium, it was during the events of Avengers Disassembled that I touched on in my previous comment in which I listed every single instance of Tony falling off the wagon, complete with the issues of reference and context, because I am knowledgable on the character and have read his comics.

It happened in Avengers #500 (2004). Tony had the floor at a United Nations assembly and he suddenly became drunk and threatened the Latverian ambassador, which cost him his job as Secretary of Defense. The reason he suddenly got drunk despite not having had a drink was because Scarlet Witch made him magically drunk as part of her nervous breakdown when she caused the Avengers' disbandment.

For reference, Norman Osborn became America's "top cop" in 2008. You're mixing up two different stories four years apart, despite the fact that in a previous comment I had already laid out how did Osborn get to Tony's position and clarified it had nothing to do with Tony's sobriety, or lack thereof.

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