Harrison Ford The New MCU General Ross?!?

[JayC]

It's being reported by /Film that Marvel Studios has found a new General Thaddeus Ross for the MCU with Harrison Ford. The character was previously played by William Hurt who passed away earlier this year.

According to the reports we will see the new Ross first appear in the upcoming "Captain America: New World Order." movie.

If this all turns out to be true, the next question is will Ford have a major role in the upcoming Thunderbolts movie and will we see the character transform into the Red Hulk as was portrayed in the comics? I guess only time will tell.

[glhshelby]

It definitely seems like the sort of actor they would go for, but it’s hard to believe they’re going to cast an 80 year old in a role that won’t even be out for several years, much less any appearances beyond that. 

[Hossman]

I can't wait to see Harrison Ford delivery his sleepy interviews about how dumb he thinks his roll is and how the movies are terrible. 

[DrZarnak]

Seems like an odd role to recast. They should just say he died or retired, and have his protege replace him. Make it Gyrich or Val Cooper. If they do Red Hulk, which I frankly hope they don’t, it’s not like it really matters much to the MCU that it’s Ross.

[LordVenger]

Yea listen I hope ford lives to be whatever age he wants and I’m a big fan of lots of his characters but I don’t know about this. 

[leokearon]

Seems odd to recast, Ross hasn't really been a major player in the MCU, they could have just replaced his character with a different character.

[Ithadar]

Seems like they are trying to cast people to try and save this dying franchise. I really really hate saying that because I love the movies but with the direction they are going with character selection, writing and producing staff being based on woke culture and not skill set or popular demand I’m afraid they will start losing money at an alarming rate.   I just hope Ryan Reynolds’s can save the franchise with the next Deadpool vs Wolverine movie!!!!  Maybe we will need to change the “blame Canada” song to “ thank Canada”. 

[Lord_Scareglow]

On 10/14/2022 at 8:00 AM, glhshelby said:

It definitely seems like the sort of actor they would go for, but it’s hard to believe they’re going to cast an 80 year old in a role that won’t even be out for several years, much less any appearances beyond that. 

I agree with the whole he is already very old, Harrison ford would be pretty great in this role, I could see him being just as strong as a cast as William Hurt, but sadly if they do infact re-cast with Ford, how long can Ford play this role? at already being 80 years old? I guess they can let him just do what he can for whatever time he's got and then just replace him with another older fellow.

I always thought Sam Elliott was an amazing Ross, not sure why they didn't recast him, although he's only 2 years younger then Harrison.

I like the idea of Harrison in this role, just not sure how long he can carry it.

 

[icematta]

Just yesterday I was talking to my wife about Thunderbolt Ross, and what a shame that Wil had to pass away, but that a good option for me was Jeff Bridges after seeing him in Old Man.

[Atlantis]

So they're gonna recast one character, but just "cannot" recast another character? And then go with a stellar superstar who's been in two blockbuster franchises over the last 40 years, sustained injuries (broken leg in Force Awakens, injured shoulder in Indiana Jones 5, at 80 years old)  and who has publicly said he's done with these roles? Granted, the Ross MCU character isn't gonna be running around like that but still, it seems an odd choice indeed.

[Lord_Scareglow]

On 10/14/2022 at 2:15 PM, icematta said:

Just yesterday I was talking to my wife about Thunderbolt Ross, and what a shame that Wil had to pass away, but that a good option for me was Jeff Bridges after seeing him in Old Man.

But Jeff was Obadiah.

if he wasn't that would be a great choice, but, hey also I guess Marshalala Ali can be both Cottonmouth and Blade, so anything could happen now.

[glhshelby]

On 10/14/2022 at 12:52 PM, Ithadar said:

Seems like they are trying to cast people to try and save this dying franchise. I really really hate saying that because I love the movies but with the direction they are going with character selection, writing and producing staff being based on woke culture and not skill set or popular demand I’m afraid they will start losing money at an alarming rate.   I just hope Ryan Reynolds’s can save the franchise with the next Deadpool vs Wolverine movie!!!!  Maybe we will need to change the “blame Canada” song to “ thank Canada”. 

I mean, people have been claiming that the MCU is “dying” for years, and it’s still not happening. At the moment the same people who are saying  “go woke, go broke” are still watching it. They just complain about it afterwards. 

[McHogan]

On 10/14/2022 at 3:21 PM, Atlantis said:

So they're gonna recast one character, but just "cannot" recast another character? And then go with a stellar superstar who's been in two blockbuster franchises over the last 40 years, sustained injuries (broken leg in Force Awakens, injured shoulder in Indiana Jones 5, at 80 years old)  and who has publicly said he's done with these roles? Granted, the Ross MCU character isn't gonna be running around like that but still, it seems an odd choice indeed.

Ha, I came here to state the same thing. Granted T’Challa > Ross as a MCU presence but why doesn’t William Hurt get the same consideration? Odd that they made such a stink about NOT recasting T’Challa out of respect for Chadwick but are strangely mum about Hurt.

as far as Harrison Ford joining the MCU, love it. I’ll take him in any capacity for as long as he is able. The man is a GD national treasure 

[JayC]

Following the report from last week we told you about, it has now been confirmed that Harrison Ford will be joining the MCU as the new General Thaddeus ”Thunderbolt” Ross which was a role previously held by the late William Hurt.

Ford will first appear as Ross in the upcoming Captain America: New World Order movie and should also be reprising the role for Thunderbolts. Whether Ford makes the transformation into the Red Hulk as seen in the comics still remains to be seen.

Captain America: New World Order will pick up after the events of the Disney+ Falcon and the Winter Soldier sees Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) take over as Captain America. The movie will be directed by Julius Onah (The Cloverfield Pardox).

[JohnF]

I'm happy that the character will live on in the MCU. I don't like recasts in general, but sometimes they're necessary. 

[monron999]

So they can't recast Black Panther, but they can recast General Ross. Disney science at it's best.

[memocromatico]

On 10/14/2022 at 3:46 PM, McHogan said:

Granted T’Challa > Ross as a MCU presence but why doesn’t William Hurt get the same consideration?

I think it's not just MCU presence. Both did an amazing job in the roles and deserve equal amount of praise and respect for it. At the same time, the impact Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa socially and culturally and what he represents for a lot of people is much greater that what Hurt did, and that isn't a disservice to anyone, it's the role they played.

On the other hand, many have carried the mantle of Black Panther so it is possible to go around that without recasting, but there really isn't another Thunderbolt Ross (I'd make a case for Talbot stepping up, and getting the dude from AoS to play him again sans the Graviton plot... but I'm not sure it would work flawlessly either).

[Hogun]

On 10/14/2022 at 2:15 PM, icematta said:

Just yesterday I was talking to my wife about Thunderbolt Ross, and what a shame that Wil had to pass away, but that a good option for me was Jeff Bridges after seeing him in Old Man.

Jeff Bridges played Obadiah Stane in the first Iron Man movie.

 

I want Thunderbolt Ross to meet Nick Fury for a meta Star Wars reference. Harrison Ford better turn into Red Hulk in the Thunderbolts. Seeing a hulkified Han Solo would be so funny.

[ransomz]

I'm more interested in seeing him play Ross than Indiana at this point

[McHogan]

On 10/17/2022 at 6:40 PM, ransomz said:

I'm more interested in seeing him play Ross than Indiana at this point

Ohhh I hate to agree but Crystal Skull killed my enthusiasm for new Indy films. I’ve got high hopes but I’m not optimistic for Indy 5

as far as Ford playing Ross.. he’ll be better utilized in an ensemble so despite his age, he could (and better) Red Hulk out and can see him sticking around for a few more MCU films. 

[Atlantis]

On 10/17/2022 at 12:35 PM, memocromatico said:

I think it's not just MCU presence. Both did an amazing job in the roles and deserve equal amount of praise and respect for it. At the same time, the impact Chadwick Boseman as T'Challa socially and culturally and what he represents for a lot of people is much greater that what Hurt did, and that isn't a disservice to anyone, it's the role they played.

People who are pushing that think they mean well, but they don't really see how patronizing that actually is.  There are any number of actors who would make a "social and cultural" impact. Outstanding as it was, he only had one feature length movie as T'Challa. Its about the character of the Black Panther, not the actor. Again, if Holland were gone for whatever reason, Spider-Man aint going anywhere. I understand thats the decision the studio has made, for now. I also understand that its likely to change in a few years too. I'm not against Harrison Ford playing Ross, I just can't see why he would, given the issues stated earlier ( not to mention the pay rate he'd likely have). I wonder, though, if Captain America NWO will possibly lead to him having an expanded role in another Hulk film?

[SpiderS]

I wonder if they will make him Red Hulk permanently after a couple of movies. It could explain why he accepted the role since it's going to be all CGI and maybe even A.I. generated voice like Darth Vader so he will sell his likeness in this role.

[leokearon]

On 10/18/2022 at 4:56 AM, Atlantis said:

People who are pushing that think they mean well, but they don't really see how patronizing that actually is.  There are any number of actors who would make a "social and cultural" impact. Outstanding as it was, he only had one feature length movie as T'Challa. Its about the character of the Black Panther, not the actor. Again, if Holland were gone for whatever reason, Spider-Man aint going anywhere. I understand thats the decision the studio has made, for now. I also understand that its likely to change in a few years too. I'm not against Harrison Ford playing Ross, I just can't see why he would, given the issues stated earlier ( not to mention the pay rate he'd likely have). I wonder, though, if Captain America NWO will possibly lead to him having an expanded role in another Hulk film?

I'm more wondering if they can replace T'Challa with a New Black Panther, why can't they just replace Thunderbolt Ross with a new character. What's so special about Ross that he has to still be around?

[Atlantis]

On 10/17/2022 at 11:17 PM, leokearon said:

I'm more wondering if they can replace T'Challa with a New Black Panther, why can't they just replace Thunderbolt Ross with a new character. What's so special about Ross that he has to still be around?

Agree. They could create a new character altogether. Keith David has the right presence, age, etc. to be a convincing govt official. I'd throw Jason Issacs or Joan Allen in the mix too. Brand new person with no ties to the comics universe at all. 

[leokearon]

On 10/18/2022 at 11:08 AM, Atlantis said:

Agree. They could create a new character altogether. Keith David has the right presence, age, etc. to be a convincing govt official. I'd throw Jason Issacs or Joan Allen in the mix too. Brand new person with no ties to the comics universe at all. 

Exactly create someone new do a Phil Coulson or if they are desperate from a Red Hulk from the comics there is Robert Maverick.