Hasbro Celebrates Avengers 60th Anniversary! Part 1 of 7

[AndyL]

This is a great question. And one that I was hoping someone would bring up. I'm glad @JayCwas the one to do it because if anyone else had brought it up I think it would have been shut down quite quickly for the sake of not wanting to start an argument. But a debate is actually fun.

For me personally I am actually quite dumbfounded why this thing isn't funded yet. As I've said time and again. This is exactly what I've seen the fans calling for throughout the last few Haslabs. The character is what everyone was calling for. The price is more than reasonable in today's market. The thing looks amazing. And most of all there were no Early Bird perks or locked figures behind tier walls that made the fans feel like they were being held hostage.

I do think there is one particular thing they could have and should have done to make this thing move. And even though it would have been a bit of a cost to Hasbro I do think that a 6" counterpart should have been part of the deal from the begining. I know the assumption is that there will be one in an upcoming Avengers wave or maybe even an Ant-Man wave but with Hasbro you never know. For all we know that thing can be another 2 years down the line with the track record they have sometimes. I think that little bit of extra effort would have done the trick. I really do. And doing it as a tier would have not made the fans happy none too much. It had to be included. Much like the Robbie Reyes civilian should have with the last one. There are just some things that are no-brainers and this is one of them.

Another thing I hear quit often that does surprise me is that he should have been bigger. This was my personally feeling. While he is much much larger than the TB version Giant Man has been known and shown to grow to heights of 60 feet and much larger. My feeling is he'd have to be a lot bigger to compete with either the Sentinel or Galactus but those are comparing apples to oranges. It's just something I've been hearing and I happen to agree with it and for some time I thought I was the only one to think that way. Of course no one expects a 6 ft action figure but maybe a little taller than the previous ones. It is much less complicated so it is also assumed to be much less expensive to produce.

Last but not least. The next biggest complaint I hear involves the Zombie head. For most people just the single head is not enough for them to be excited for the Zombie feature. had they done an extra hand or forearm or maybe even a boot with a chunk out of it that would have been a big seller. Heck I'm even a fan of those use and reuse static stickers they used to do for older toys back in they day. If this thing funds I'll actually have my sister make me some.

Honestly I think there will be a massive number of backers hit this thing at the last second. A lot of people I talk to are one the fence and really just trying to save up a few bucks before they pull the trigger. Of course most of use experienced shoppers know that's kind of pointless because the money doesn't come out out for a while so it gives us some time to make sure it's in the bank but I understand how people on a budget think.

[leokearon]

There are a few other reasons along with the ones  @JayC mentioned I can think of for why the HasLab seems to be struggling.

The first is there is no 6 inch Giant Man to go with it. A lot of collectors seem to go for a Growing effect when it comes to Hank, so the fact you can't do it with this version or even have just a regular sized Hank to hang out with the other Avengers is  strange and maybe a bit off putting.

However I think the stretch goals are the biggest reason the HasLab is struggling. They aren't exciting able to change him into a Skrull so he can go with your Veranke and that's it when it comes to your Skrulls as heroes collection. The Zombie ihead s even worse off given the only Marvel Zombie figures we have are MCU What If versions which would look a little out of place next to this guy. So the stretch goals don't really add much for collectors unless Hasbro announce more Classic looks with Skrull heads figures and some comic Marvel Zombies at NYCC

[Inspection12e]

I'm pretty sure this isn't going to fund and that's bad because I sold my other Giant Man and backed this. 

[frozentenderloin]

A couple things I have observed about the last 2 Legends Haslabs:

- Price has been a component in the failure of the campaigns. Based on a lot of the comments I read, and even discussing the Ghost Rider haslab with friends, the majority of people seemed to think that the car was overpriced. While Hasbro attempted to sweeten the deal by adding some longtime desired character figures (Mephisto, Goblin Queen) that collectors have been begging for for years, the price of the car didn't justify acquiring those characters if you had no interest in the car itself. If there isn't a desire for the main item that is being sold, it doesn't matter what add-ons you offer, people aren't going to pay for something they don't want. That was the ultimate demise of the Ghost Rider haslab, too much money and not enough interest.

Applying that principle to Giant man- Yes, the figure is significantly cheaper, but that also came at a cost- no additional figures added at all. The only unlockables are alternate heads. I think this was a detriment to this campaign. As apposed to realizing that unlockables are effective if the main product is a desired one, they completely chose to eliminate any additional draw the campaign may have had to push the interest past the finish line. Additional heads are cool, but they aren't cool enough to make people's interest grow. Like the original article stated, there is literally nothing at this point to entice uncertain buyers. Either you were in from early on, or you pretty much have long since lost interest. This is the time that those extra figures could have been the thing to make the pendulum swing in the direction of funding the campaign. I think there are a lot of people that like the idea of this Giant man figure, I initially did myself, but when I found out there would be no new reveals, I lost that interest pretty quickly. Even if they had thrown in a new Wasp figure or something, at least it would have been a reveal that could have been promoted towards the end of the campaign. I have a feeling that Hasbro shot Giant Man in the foot by not having any tantalizing add-ons and unlockables.

- Another issue with the Giant Man campaign I have seen is that there exists alternatives to this option for Giant man. Despite being dated, there are many people that are content with the older Toybiz baf or other iterations of the character. Even the 6 inch scale version of Giant Man may be fine for some collectors who are just looking for character representation as apposed to him actually needing to be "giant". While I am not saying that there aren't those who feel this particular Giant Man is an absolute necessity for their collection, I simply mean that there isn't a total void this figure is filling. For some it would only be a replacement, and not an essential one. This was also true for the sentinels and Galactus as well, but again, there were added unlockables that made those campaigns more enticing- "the icing on the cake" so to speak. With Giant Man there is no icing. Some people may be ok with unfrosted cake, but for many people a frosted cake is the one they would be drawn to. This campaign needed some icing. To reiterate, there needs to be an established interest in the main product for it to succeed, but should also be something that people will be excited about unlocking. I think both elements are necessary to an effective campaign. Had people actually wanted the Robbie Reyes car, the unlockable figures would have been all the more exciting, and it probably would have driven across the finish line as apposed to crashing and burning in it's own plastic fire... (Also, I saw greater interest in Johnny Blaze and Danny Ketch Ghost Rider motorcycles than I ever did with Robbie or his car...)

[MrWolf12000]

The stretch goals on other Haslabs really make this campaign look third rate. Theres an argument for "base offering value" and I get it, but realistically thats not what a large portion of collectors back for. If Frankie Raye and Morg werent part of Galactus, I wouldnt have laid down the money. The GI Joe Haslabs are coming with 4 figures each! And we get.... not much to be excited about for GM

They need to slow the hell down on these crowdfunds in general; its too much and they arent the only ones trying (and failing at that).

2 failed Star Wars and potentially 2 failed Marvel campaigns HAS to have something to do with the liscensors involvement. We know they have a big say in what is produced and how things are to be handled, and we know Disney is just a dreck content factory run by a corporate weasel.

[Jormungand]

I certainly hope it funds and I have backed it. Whether or not Hasbro has been adding international backers real-time, or will once again toss them all into the domestic running total backers, at the last minute, seems to be a major mystery. I brought this up weeks ago and I have not heard nor seen anything on Hasbro's part to indicate they are doing it differently this year. So we very well may see a big surge at the end when they add international backers in. Of course, this might be a marketing tool to get as many domestic backers as possible - people who are now panicking it may not fund and thus throw there backing behind it late in the game. I can see this maybe working on some, but my real hope is that international backers have yet to be added, no matter if its strategy on Hasbro's part or not.

[cvg_607234874]

It's boring, it is a tall figure that doesn't offer much but an angry face as a stretch goal and more $24 dollar Marvel Legends figures marked up to give it value.  Ghost Rider's care was cool but way over priced.  In a time when we are looking to feed our families and keep roofs over our heads, this is a luxury expense that is an easy pass for something more worth while.  It is why the Star Wars stuff gets funded, they are actually intriguing and look more valuable than a $200 dollar smooth body figure.  I mean really, it is just a blank figure body, I wouldn't be surprised it isn't something used in mockups for approval before the figures are turned into 6 inch figures.  It is hard to believe that the toy makers at Hasbro are so out of touch. 

GhostRider's car, I would have had more Ghostrider's as the stretch goals.  Western Ghostrider with lights, Ghostrider 2099 with his Bike, Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch.  I feel that may have made it worth while, not figures we should basically see in a regular Marvel Legends line.  Marvel Legends is sort of falling apart, characters who should show up as the movies or TV series are released not two years later, or obscure characters that they can just use the blank bodies as repaints.  They save money, raise prices and then give us garbage, I am just not excited for the line anymore.  We have so many good characters I feel they are so scared to release, instead we get a repaint Spiderman for the 50th time or a new Wolverine that has a smirk or a snarl...  Or yet another Iron Man using the same mold they used for all the movies.  Why haven't we seen an all out 2099 line, where we have Doom 2099, Ghost Rider 2099, Hulk could be the BAF figure.   Am I off on this? 

[Bryanbkg]

I feel like I’d they had included the skrull faceplate with the base offering it would have funded by now. I definitely would have ordered 2 initially instead of waiting for the tier to unlock. 

[tarot]

On 10/9/2023 at 7:51 PM, cvg_607234874 said:

 smooth body figure.

it's not smooth. it's actually has alot of texture and detail in it.

[Satam]

On 10/9/2023 at 2:56 PM, Bryanbkg said:

I feel like I’d they had included the skrull faceplate with the base offering it would have funded by now.

Very likely, but we'll never know. Not really.
Also, and this wasn't your point, but I have seen it brought up here several times, so I thought it was worth addressing: For every collector who thinks this Haslab is hurt by not offering 6" figures in addition to the 24" Giant Man, there's another collector who would refuse to back this thing because he hates it when figures are "locked behind a paywall" and is glad that Hasbro hasn't gone this route.
The one thing I wish they'd do, which would help (but I don't know how much) would be to post a video demonstration of how the face plates actually work. Obviously they go in from the back, but it's also a lot less obvious than a Hot Toys figure (or similar) with big blank spaces where the mouth and eye pieces plug in from the front.

 

On 10/9/2023 at 11:26 AM, AndyL said:

This is a great question. And one that I was hoping someone would bring up. I'm glad @JayCwas the one to do it because if anyone else had brought it up I think it would have been shut down quite quickly for the sake of not wanting to start an argument. But a debate is actually fun.

This shouldn't need to be said, but I'll say it anyway for clarification: Disagreements are not inherently problematic and are not automatically shut down, contrary to what you may believe. Debates are discussion, and discussion is encouraged. It's the entire purpose of this board. The problem is fighting. As long as people aren't getting nasty when they disagree with each other, and as long as it's not totally off-topic or some hot button thing like religion or some political issue, which has no place here, Marvelous News staff should have no issue with it. I hope that's clear.

[RobertD]

I'm one of those weirdos who waits until the last day or two before I back.  I use different cards (credit and debit) for my figures and prefer to pick which one to use based on where my financials stand then and there.  Are there another 5k people out there like me who collects Legends?  Probably, I'll say.  I do hope it funds all the way to the Skrull tier.   If it comes to it and I only buy the one figure, I'd probably display it with that head.  I likes me some Skrulls. 

[Jmacq1]

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  The reason this HasLab is likely to fail is because it's Giant-Man.  A character best known for being a mentally ill domestic abuser and something of a perpetual loser within the comics (I may be wrong but I believe Ultron is currently wearing him as a skinsuit in the comics these days), and as a crochety old semi-retired superhero in the MCU.  It's a great version of the character but if not enough people want the character that much to begin with it doesn't matter how cool a version you've created.

Thing is, I'm not even sure what they could do at this point that would fund easily short of deliberately losing money on projects by underpricing them.   They've already picked the low-hanging fruit.  The rest gets more difficult.

[AndyL]

On 10/9/2023 at 8:42 PM, Jmacq1 said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again:  The reason this HasLab is likely to fail is because it's Giant-Man.  A character best known for being a mentally ill domestic abuser and something of a perpetual loser within the comics (I may be wrong but I believe Ultron is currently wearing him as a skinsuit in the comics these days), and as a crochety old semi-retired superhero in the MCU.  It's a great version of the character but if not enough people want the character that much to begin with it doesn't matter how cool a version you've created.

Thing is, I'm not even sure what they could do at this point that would fund easily short of deliberately losing money on projects by underpricing them.   They've already picked the low-hanging fruit.  The rest gets more difficult.

Huh? A character's flaws are part of what makes a character unique. Tony Stark is an alcoholic and egomaniac. Reed Richards has shown chauvinistic tendencies and is a narcissist. Moon Knight has severe bipolar schizophrenia. Magneto is a sociopathic murderer. Are they all garbage characters? Not trying to argue with your opinion but to simply write him off as a bad person is kind of simplistic. He's not one of my favorite characters by a large measure. In fact I really have no attachment to the character other than he's one of the longstanding members of the avengers but I really can't grasp that the majority of people just don't like Giant-Man because of his past or even current issues. To me it's almost like saying we don't want a Doctor Doom figure because he's a murderous tyrant. Of course he is. That's what makes him Doom.

[since83]

I hate that we are even having this debate. I honestly can't believe he hasn't funded. There are a lot of arguments out there that make sense, but the new "Hasbros gonna invest your money yo!" Is pretty dumb. All I know right now is I want it. And that the sting from the EoV still hasn't subsided.

[Thwippersnapper]

I, for one, am expecting a significant amount of last minuteers to come out of the woodwork to back this thing. I mean really really, what reason is there to back it any sooner.. we already know the tiers, which excited like 10 people. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens.

[Jmacq1]

On 10/10/2023 at 9:44 AM, AndyL said:

Huh? A character's flaws are part of what makes a character unique. Tony Stark is an alcoholic and egomaniac. Reed Richards has shown chauvinistic tendencies and is a narcissist. Moon Knight has severe bipolar schizophrenia. Magneto is a sociopathic murderer. Are they all garbage characters? Not trying to argue with your opinion but to simply write him off as a bad person is kind of simplistic. He's not one of my favorite characters by a large measure. In fact I really have no attachment to the character other than he's one of the longstanding members of the avengers but I really can't grasp that the majority of people just don't like Giant-Man because of his past or even current issues. To me it's almost like saying we don't want a Doctor Doom figure because he's a murderous tyrant. Of course he is. That's what makes him Doom.

The thing is that those characters didn't have those flaws become their defining characteristics to the point that it significantly and permanently hampered their heroic careers AND their popularity as characters. It's not really what they're remembered for by fans.  Hank Pym, on the other hand, is the guy that created Ultron, hit his wife, had a nervous breakdown that he seems to drop in and out of on a semi-regular basis, hasn't been able to stick to any single superheroic identity for longer than a couple years (even if Giant-Man seems to be his most common go-to), and continues to be portrayed as something of a weirdo-creep and sad-sack with a massive inferiority complex.  I make no argument that it makes Hank Pym a worse character.  Just that it doesn't make him a very popular one, and I think that bears out by the general lack of say, Giant Man solo series and the like.  He is probably without question the least popular founding Avenger, and has been for pretty much his whole existence.

There is a genuine HATE-dom for Hank Pym because of the domestic abuse, which was partially perpetuated by Jim Shooter during his tenure, and when Hank started to show signs of finally and truly pulling out of that pit after years of rehabilitiation from various writers, the Ultimate Universe happened (and while it was an alternate Universe, its' depiction of Hank was utterly abhorrent to the point that it spilled over onto the classic version of the character). 

Again, I'm not saying Hank isn't a good character or this isn't a good product.  I'm just pointing out my observations of how Hank Pym is generally received over my 40ish years of comic fandom.  He's not popular, and never really has been.

[AndyL]

On 10/10/2023 at 5:58 PM, Jmacq1 said:

The thing is that those characters didn't have those flaws become their defining characteristics to the point that it significantly and permanently hampered their heroic careers AND their popularity as characters. It's not really what they're remembered for by fans.  Hank Pym, on the other hand, is the guy that created Ultron, hit his wife, had a nervous breakdown that he seems to drop in and out of on a semi-regular basis, hasn't been able to stick to any single superheroic identity for longer than a couple years (even if Giant-Man seems to be his most common go-to), and continues to be portrayed as something of a weirdo-creep and sad-sack with a massive inferiority complex.  I make no argument that it makes Hank Pym a worse character.  Just that it doesn't make him a very popular one, and I think that bears out by the general lack of say, Giant Man solo series and the like.  He is probably without question the least popular founding Avenger, and has been for pretty much his whole existence.

There is a genuine HATE-dom for Hank Pym because of the domestic abuse, which was partially perpetuated by Jim Shooter during his tenure, and when Hank started to show signs of finally and truly pulling out of that pit after years of rehabilitiation from various writers, the Ultimate Universe happened (and while it was an alternate Universe, its' depiction of Hank was utterly abhorrent to the point that it spilled over onto the classic version of the character). 

Again, I'm not saying Hank isn't a good character or this isn't a good product.  I'm just pointing out my observations of how Hank Pym is generally received over my 40ish years of comic fandom.  He's not popular, and never really has been.

I will agree Hank is a weak character. I still wouldn't go so far as to call him universally hated. Let's not forget that the things he's done and accomplished in the comics are a large part of what makes up the Marvel Universe as a whole today. Good or bad. Like them or not. The abuse thing was something they tackled back in the day to bring light to a serious problem at the time and he just happened to be the character they threw down at that alter. Most likely because he was indeed one of the least popular members of the Avengers yet still had a profile strong enough to hit home. As I pointed out it as much a part of his character as Tony's alcoholism. As a victim of mental and verbal abuse I can say I can appreciate what they were attempting to do with that back then. Even if it was a wee bit before my time.

Giant-Man on the other is a completely different animal. It almost like they are indeed two different people. Hank is what he is and GM is the hero. As GM he does contribute to and is a powerful and useful part of the team. GM is still very iconic and recognizable and an Avengers team without him is not a complete Avengers team. He's integral to completing the team. Especially as a founding member. I'm not going to exclude his significance because of his imperfections as a character.

There are tons of weak characters and characters that are terrible people in both the Marvel Universe and Marvel Legends but I still collect most of them because they are so different. Captain Marvel has been a terribly weak character for years and bad writing and stories have made her nearly insufferable in recent years. Professor X has done some very sketchy and questionable immoral things over the past few years and has been uncharacteristically smug and unrepentant about it. And how many atrocities has Hulk done under the umbrella of not being in control of himself?

I can understand if people dislike Hank and I guess there is reasonable argument why but I honestly don't see many people not wanting to support Giant Man because Hank might be a DBag. Maybe that coupled with the fact that it is still quite a price tag as compares to most ML might be a contributing factor. Even if it is cheaper than any Haslab to date. So I'll give you that. But I just don't see it being a major detriment to this project as a whole.

I guess time will tell but I do think a large influx will bring this project home. And I would love to complete my Avengers team with GM.

Great discussion though. You're very concise and articulate and though I don't agree I can at least see and understand the angle from where you observe the issue.

All love, friend!

[leokearon]

Yeah, Hank is now a problematic character especially due to how his flaws are handled. The main problem is that the majority of writers and fans, then to focus on the fact that he hit his wife once (one time too many) and he created Ultron and only focus on that, even though other more famous heroes have done worse. They don't mention if it wasn't for him the Avengers wouldn't exist or that his guilt and depression over his negative actions drove him to suicide or that he defeated the Masters of Evil single-handed.  Of course you then get other writers who shill him and make him an unbearable arrogant douche -bag, it seems that it is hard to find a good balance.

Of course everyone is someone's favourite. Maggott tends to be on the majority of worst X-Men lists vying for first spot with Stacy-X and Adam-Xtreme but he's one of my favourite X-men and I was delighted he got a toy.

[JayC]

Honestly I feel like the choice of Giant Man for the Haslab was pushed on Hasbro by Disney/Marvel. We are basically getting Giant Man because Marvel wanted to push the Avengers Anniversary this year. If you look at retail those Avengers anniversary 2pks dont seem to be moving very well in part because I think of the prices and people are getting more and more patient and just waiting for places to discount them.

Last year was the same, we got that GR one because it was Ghost Rider's anniversary.

As far as Hank, we have so many different versions of him in the line already including two different BAF versions of Giant Man himself and out of all the original Avengers I do think he is probably the least popular.

Interest in Marvel Legends as a whole I see decreasing more and more for a variety of reasons, some of which I think are totally out of Hasbro's control. Everyone has an opinion and everyone thinks if Hasbro just gives them what they want it will fix things but I don't see it that way. The declining interest in the recent MCU stuff I think has played a huge role in the decline of ML and the fact Hasbro has to crank out movie and TV product for every MCU project that comes down the pipeline which causes a glutton of product is a big part of the problem. Also the line has had a very long life so it comes harder and harder to come up with new and original things that are really gonna have wide appeal.

 

[leokearon]

On 10/11/2023 at 4:09 PM, JayC said:

Honestly I feel like the choice of Giant Man for the Haslab was pushed on Hasbro by Disney/Marvel. We are basically getting Giant Man because Marvel wanted to push the Avengers Anniversary this year. If you look at retail those Avengers anniversary 2pks dont seem to be moving very well in part because I think of the prices and people are getting more and more patient and just waiting for places to discount them.

Last year was the same, we got that GR one because it was Ghost Rider's anniversary.

As far as Hank, we have so many different versions of him in the line already including two different BAF versions of Giant Man himself and out of all the original Avengers I do think he is probably the least popular.

Interest in Marvel Legends as a whole I see decreasing more and more for a variety of reasons, some of which I think are totally out of Hasbro's control. Everyone has an opinion and everyone thinks if Hasbro just gives them what they want it will fix things but I don't see it that way. The declining interest in the recent MCU stuff I think has played a huge role in the decline of ML and the fact Hasbro has to crank out movie and TV product for every MCU project that comes down the pipeline which causes a glutton of product is a big part of the problem. Also the line has had a very long life so it comes harder and harder to come up with new and original things that are really gonna have wide appeal.

 

 

Making a Haslab to tie-in with an anniversary is a mistake, especially as when the product is finally released it won't be an anniversary piece.

[AndyL]

On 10/11/2023 at 11:08 AM, leokearon said:

 

Making a Haslab to tie-in with an anniversary is a mistake, especially as when the product is finally released it won't be an anniversary piece.

That and making them have to do product on every single MCU and Disney+ project. The MCU has gone on far past its expiration date but Hasbro is still contractually bound to give them prime treatment. Regardless of how well the movie or shows were received. Literally nothing is learned with waves like The Eternals wave or the Captain Marvel wave because they have to do those waves by contract. We all know Hasbro took a bath on those waves but contractually they had no choice. I swear there was a time I honestly thought the comic product was going to be phased out altogether. Luckily it seems to have surged since then and it would surprise me none too much to find out it has a lot to do with how bad all the MCU projects have been lately.

At it's height of popularity during the Toybiz days they managed to maintain a great following with minimal movie tie-in product. Sure there was less Cinematic content back then but the decline of ML seems to me at least to be directly tied into how much movie and TV product is injected into the line. One or two movie characters seemed to be the sweet spot at one time. I've never seen product linger on the shelves as much as it has since the majority-half and full movie waves began. That's just the truth. And sure every wave has their warmers but it's extra these days. Enough that Hasbro recognizes which figures don't need BAF parts such as any new comic based Iron Man armor or which figures do need a BAF part like that bogus Midnight Suns Gamerverse Iron Man. They're not really that dumb. They're just really good at playing dumb. That and making stupid excuses to feed the fanbase who they also must see as stupid enough to believe those excuses. And I also understand the MCU figures still have a strong fanbase and many eat up every MCU product that comes out. And that's cool if that's your spot. But I just think a diverse collection of wild and cool looking characters is the way to go and the comic universe allows more space for that as the movie space is more confined and tend to have an over abundance of the same old characters over and over again.I mean one year we got 4 Captain Marvel and 3 Starlords. And we still haven't even gotten a mass retail modern comic version of Starlord to this day. Something is way of at ML right now and it really needs a new perspective to inject some life into it.

I think the line still has plenty of gas in the tank with Marvel's main characters. Movie or no movie ties everyone knows Captain America, Spidey, Hulk and Wolverine. Even characters a few tiers down like DD, Iron Fist and Ghostrider still had a decent amount of recognizable appeal. I might not know who a character is but make him look cool and make it clear who they're fighting with or against and you probably got me. Also with the constant development and improvement of new body models they have a ton of backlog to go back and reproduce. I would literally buy any past character done on the old Bucky Cap body mold that is redone with the new Vulcan mold. Any character done on the old Hyperion model that is redone with the Unworthy Thor model. Each and every female character done on the Kate body model that is redone with either the Shreik or Psylocke model. Bring them on. I don't even hate them for it. Progress is good and when you can do something or anything better than you did it before I welcome it.

You can even tie that in with my current feelings of this Giant Man who is certainly better than the last.

[Inspection12e]

On 10/10/2023 at 1:29 PM, Thwippersnapper said:

I, for one, am expecting a significant amount of last minuteers to come out of the woodwork to back this thing. I mean really really, what reason is there to back it any sooner.. we already know the tiers, which excited like 10 people. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens.

I've been watching the last couple days it's getting less than 15 backers a day.  

[Jmacq1]

It's certainly a salient point that this line is long in the tooth, especially if you go back to the Toy Biz days.  It's something of a repeating pattern that the "first time in the line" C and D-List characters that they throw us longtime collectors every couple waves are often pegwarmers.  Yes, the decline in interest for the MCU (aided and abetted by the COVID pandemic) has absolutely hurt the line as well.  The Totally Awesome Hulk, Quantumania, and Retro Spidey waves went straight to clearance here and several of our local Targets (not all) no longer even have dedicated shelf space for Marvel Legends right now (it will probably come back, but for now...nada). Not a good sign for the health of the line.

Most of us old timers have all the "core characters" we want, and most of the B-Listers we want, too.  We get that one or two C/D listers every couple waves to keep us hooked (and sometimes the BAFs).  There are certainly still things I'd like to see/get from this line, but as it stands right now I've massively throttled back my ML and Star Wars Black Series purchases (and ramped up GI Joe Classified).  I was near-completionist for the last few years on ML (even if many items were bought on sale/clearance) but very little of this stuff is particularly exciting to me (Though the Mindless One wave was mostly a pleasant surprise, and the Void wave looks pretty good, too).  

[JayC]

Hasbro has released some images for their Marvel Legends HasLab Giant-Man figure which is on display at the Marvel booth this weekend during the New York Comic Con. As of right now the campaign has 5,683 of the minimum 10k Backers needed to move into production with just over 11 days left to go. Will it fund?

[JayC]

Some additional images via Preternia