Hasbro Celebrates Avengers 60th Anniversary! Part 1 of 7

[McHogan]

On 9/8/2023 at 6:24 PM, since83 said:

Can I just add, for no good reason, that the hope of adding a new figure that can flip people off brings a huge amount of joy to my life.

I can see if this funds way ahead of schedule them adding a tier. Seems like that happened  with the Sentinel right? Or was it that ridiculous Doom head for Galactus? Either way, it isn't unprecedented that a bonus tier gets added as a thank you for the support. Be cool to get 6" Hank as a bonus

[Thwippersnapper]

On 9/8/2023 at 11:12 PM, McHogan said:

I can see if this funds way ahead of schedule them adding a tier. Seems like that happened  with the Sentinel right? Or was it that ridiculous Doom head for Galactus? Either way, it isn't unprecedented that a bonus tier gets added as a thank you for the support. Be cool to get 6" Hank as a bonus

The Sentinel’s extra tentacle is what you must be thinking of — was included at the end as a thank you.

[McHogan]

On 9/9/2023 at 12:41 AM, Thwippersnapper said:

The Sentinel’s extra tentacle is what you must be thinking of — was included at the end as a thank you.

Yeah that sounds right.  I knew it was a lesser offering but looking back, the tentacles were more appropriate as an earlier tier. Since those are synomonis as one of their primary weapons . 

As I recall the Doom head was Galactus's last tier but that was most  likely achieved because Galactus himself was the prize and. Not some one-off aberration of doom cosplaying

As far as the Ghost Rider Hell Charger tiers.. it smacked of desperation. I was pretty much out when. The early bird failed. Bit then they pretty much backtracked and offered Robbies head then tried to sweeten the deal with other fan favorite offerings... kind of...they went with less classic versions than what people wanted 

[SpiderS]

Aside from creepy smiling face, which unintentioanlly does fit Hank and his mental states over the years, this figure is truly an amazing sculpt and price really isn't too bad at all when you consider that some 6-7 inch speciality  import figures go for over 100. I'm really curious to see how that new improved harness system works in practice.

But sadly, just don't have a space for him. I hope we will get something closer to 12-14 inches in retail line and I'm sure there's even bigger demand for smaller Giant Man now due to collectors wanting to recreate growth transfromation scene on their displays.

I think Hasbro can do addtional Giant man figures (preferebly with classic Wasp pack in) as retail or fan channels exclusive releases down the line, one being 12-14 inches and another regular 6 inch one but they also could do 8-9 inch one as well if sales are there.

[RyanDaly]

Hank Pym is one of my favorite Marvel characters, so I was pretty confident I would back this HasLab as long as the Marvel brand guys didn't go too far, like make him Galactus-size, or charge $300 for him. I still would've been perfectly fine if he was in the 18-20 inch range, but 24 inches is fine. The promo art is definitely evoking the Alex Ross MARVELS iconic image of Giant Man, so that works.

About the price... They released a 12-inch Super-Adaptoid this summer for $69.99, so you'd think doubling the size would double the cost and this should only be $140, but in practice we know that's not true. There is a lot more complicated texturing and articulation and face sculpting for Giant Man. Plus, it's Marvel; Hasbro HAS TO charge more for their Marvel and Star Wars product because they pay licensing fees. They can charge less for G.I.Joe and Transformers projects because Hasbro keeps 100% of the profit. So... I'm fine with the price.

It's crazy that I backed two HasLabs this year (the Dragonfly and Giant-Man, assuming he funds), and still spent LESS money than the Star Wars GHOST cost!

But looking at the numbers, this guy is moving sloooooooowly. Only 33% funded on the first day, and there is always a huge drop-off after that. It's going to be a long, slow crawl for the next month as the numbers tick up little bit by little bit, just like Galactus. I think the lack of extra six-inch figures is really stalling the momentum for this project. And I completely understand Hasbro not wanting to trap highly-desirable figures behind the HasLab paywall. But the G.I.Joe brand team figured out you can still release figures--just not ESSENTIAL figures. 

A six-inch version of Giant-Man, perhaps with an unmasked head, maybe a lab coat, would be a simple extra incentive. 

Giant-Man and the Wasp is a no-brainer. And luckily, Wasp has a hundred variants to choose from! It makes sense to release the first-appearance Janet on her own, either as part of a wave or solo, like the Target exclusive Astonishing Ant-Man earlier this year. But the HasLab could include another version of Jan, like the yellow and red costume she wore when she married Hank Pym. Or the white, one-legged costume that George Perez designed for her. Or the black and yellow costume she had when she was chairwoman of the Avengers during the "Under Siege" story arc. Any of these would work as added incentives for the Giant-Man HasLab, and they wouldn't leave too many collectors feeling locked out of an essential character.

Whether they add any other tiers, though, I do think Giant-Man himself is worth the money and I'm happy I backed it. I hope it funds so I can add him to my collection, but at this point I don't care if they move one unit beyond 10,000 because the Zombie and Skrull face/heads are meaningless to me. 

[bashpics99]

I feel like if they had to do an ML Haslab, this is a pretty good choice.  Personally  i don't have a need for a 24 inch Giant Man figure with all that hand articulation etc.  For me, a BAF or deluxe Giant-Man roughly the same height and articulation scheme as the mcu Giant-Man BAF would have sufficed, but i get that for a Haslab its gotta be more deluxe than retail offerings.

To me, it makes sense to create tiers that really only have value to someone interested in the main offering, rather than having figures like Jarvis or whomever trapped behind a $400 firewall.  as for other versions of Hank or Jan etc I'm sure like Galactus they have some figures in the pipeline that they plan to release to coincide with Giant Man's shipping date.   Wasp is certainly well-known enough to get her own release, although with Hasbro surely it will be as part of a 2-pack including a repaint of a figure we already all own lol.  

All that said, kinda doubt this gets funded.  I just don't think Giant Man is that popular, plus i'm sure between the Sentinel and Galactus many collectors are realizing that its not all that easy to display your regular MLs when you have one of these colossal ones around.

[Jmacq1]

It's a long way to funded, and generally speaking if you don't make it to at least 50% funded in the first 24 hours it's far from guaranteed that you make it over the line (much less into stretch goals/tiers).  

This is really the litmus test for where the ML market is at.  They've done almost everything a lot of folks here on this very site have claimed they wanted:   Lower pricepoint, classic comic character (indeed a character mentioned by name as a possibility several times), minimal bells and whistles.

It's interesting that most of the reception here seems to be practically glowing and yet it's not taking off in early funding.

 

[Reno]

I personally would be shocked if this didn't fund easily. I'd argue that Giant-Man is probably a more well known and popular character than either Galactus or the Sentinels (and I'm primarily an X-Men guy). This particular offer at this particular price point seems like a slam dunk. If this didn't fund then I honestly can't think of any Marvel HasLab project that realistically could. This to me looks to easily be one of the best things that Hasbro has ever done with the Marvel license.

I bought 3 Sentinels (wish I'd done a 4th) and Galactus. I didn't back either until the final day because I wanted to be sure of the final offering. I fully intend to back this - I just haven't decided if I want 1, 2 or 3. I'm leaning towards 2 - but only if that Skrull head is included. I probably won't even look at the counter until we get into October 1st, which would basically be the half way point. Regardless, I probably won't fund until that final weekend because I just never do. I'm sure that there are many others with a similar mentality.

This seems to get pretty much unanimous praise from a community that is quite honestly extremely toxic more than 90% of the time. I often think that the people who complain probably rarely buy any figures anyway. Those of us that buy the vast majority of what is released probably aren't the ones being so negative. I've supported this line for more than 20 years and already have the ToyBiz Giant-Man BAF and the 12" Marvel Universe Gigantic Battles version (and the 6" modern version and 8" Toy Biz Goliath) - this was a still no brainer for me because this is such an upgrade over those. I never bought the SDCC 12" modern version or the MCU version but this is a clear upgrade over those as well. Looking at ebay it appears that I could still sell the ToyBiz BAF to almost fully fund the HasLab but I have no intentions of doing that just like I didn't sell my Toy Biz or MU Galactus or any of the prior Sentinel offerings. I could see myself selling that MU gigantic battles version, though maybe.

[tarot]

Only a few inches tall? More like double the size.

 

[RyanDaly]

I would be shocked if they're not sitting on a 12-inch Goliath buck to be unveiled after this Giant-Man campaign ends, whether it's successful or not. They made a 12-inch Super-Adaptoid so there is obviously a willingness and market for figures of that scale. And with minimal retooling, the Hank Pym Goliath could be repurposed for Bill Foster and Hank Pym. 

[Jormungand]

Very astute on the Hasbro Teams part to show this comparison. Many here seem to be saying how happy with their TB Giant Man they are, and how they don't plan to purchase the new figure. I also like my old Giant Man. He is probably the best TB era BAF. But this Haslab is amazing in detail, articulation, size and versatility for displaying and posing. Everything the Haslab Engine of Vengeance was not. They learned from that failure and came back strong. For $200, this is a huge value. Not sure how many forums users actually understand the historic inflation we have endured here in America over the past year, but I remember the last time, 40 years ago, and it really does affect the price of everything. That includes our adult toys made from petroleum product. And don't get me started on the inflation our foreign forums users have endured as well. So take a good look at this guy, enlarge the photos for the details, see for yourself how excellent they made him... do you see the Pym Particle molecule design on the bottom of his boot?! They made him with thought, care and with us collectors clearly in mind. So give it another thought and realize you will be kicking yourself later if you don't jump in and back him. Getting off my soapbox now.

[Ironspider428]

This just solidifies my opinion that modern day Hasbro blows anything ToyBiz made out of the water. Giant Man wasn't the worst of the worst but he still has those weird things like the hips and wonky musculature and dirty paint wash. The Hasbro version is better in almost every way. I'm a bit curious about the suspenders on the new one though, I've always pictured them as blue, not black.

[tarot]

On 9/9/2023 at 6:29 PM, Ironspider428 said:

 I'm a bit curious about the suspenders on the new one though, I've always pictured them as blue, not black.

As always with the costumes from the 60s, that was mostly due to the printers of the time. They used dark blue for them but combined with the red of the costume, they would come off as black.

[since83]

While the suit isn't quite right, a 3rd tier Goliath head for the red and blue look would work for me and actually get me to order two for the very different team set ups. Especially if it came with another yellow belt with a blue set of suspenders. Still want the blue hood and cowl for his second look. That would cover three separate looks and team set ups. Of course this is a lot of wishful thinking if it doesn't get funded.

I would like to echo the well written statement made earlier about backing this if you are on the fence. If we back it early and get it funded, then people getting it for an investment start coming on board. We can't do it without them. So waiting feeds into a lack of confidence that can kill the campaign, as we saw last year. If you are debating getting multiples, order one now and get it funded. You can't get any otherwise. I am pretty dang sure there are more tiers planned but they don't want to show them until at least the Zombie face funds. So, let's get some momentum going!

[AndyL]

On 9/9/2023 at 12:27 PM, Jormungand said:

Very astute on the Hasbro Teams part to show this comparison. Many here seem to be saying how happy with their TB Giant Man they are, and how they don't plan to purchase the new figure. I also like my old Giant Man. He is probably the best TB era BAF. But this Haslab is amazing in detail, articulation, size and versatility for displaying and posing. Everything the Haslab Engine of Vengeance was not. They learned from that failure and came back strong. For $200, this is a huge value. Not sure how many forums users actually understand the historic inflation we have endured here in America over the past year, but I remember the last time, 40 years ago, and it really does affect the price of everything. That includes our adult toys made from petroleum product. And don't get me started on the inflation our foreign forums users have endured as well. So take a good look at this guy, enlarge the photos for the details, see for yourself how excellent they made him... do you see the Pym Particle molecule design on the bottom of his boot?! They made him with thought, care and with us collectors clearly in mind. So give it another thought and realize you will be kicking yourself later if you don't jump in and back him. Getting off my soapbox now.

Well said. I love my TBGM as well but as I do have him in my studio display even kneeling I knew this one was a much more giant man. As collectors we need this. I'm seeing a lot of negativity online and I must say I'm baffled. All the same people that are complaining are the same people that were saying we need a new GM. And the price to me is more than reasonable in today's market. Certainly compared to other Haslab. As Sharty said so well. If you dont want this one try chasing down a TB version and it's just as expensive or more. I disagree with much he has to say but he's spot on. Anything less and it wouldn't necessarily have to be a Haslab. And I'm thinking that's what a lot of people are wanting TBH. That's all future talk but this thing has to be funded first and the mold has to be produced to be used in future products. I do think this thing goes through and I think a lot of people are on the wait and see margin and a large wave will push it above and beyond but I just don't see the people responding that have wanted this thing for years. Not only is it better in every way from the original but it's massive in comparison. Had Dwight not sent this pic I would have pulled out the TBGM from its case and stood him in between my three Sentinels. That whole "if you have the TB version you're good" argument is just crazy to me. That's as ridiculous in this case as it was in the case of the Blob figure. And a lot of that was actually coming from online personalities. I don't see the downside here and from a long time collector it seems between this thing's size, price, articulation and sculpt this is everything people were asking for. And as Hasbro sometimes gets it right sometimes and properly responds to the fans we'd better take it while the taking is good. This won't come around again. Hasbro's been playing it smart to not say that or even insinuate it but be sure this is the case. If you don't need or don't want it I have no problem with you're decision but if you're one of us whose been pining and rooting and demanding one for years well here's your shot. Time to put up or, you know the rest.

[Jormungand]

Well AndyL and since 83, let's hope the silent majority will rally behind this project over the weekend. I know most have lives and families that fill their time. So perhaps all those who were voicing for this figure over the past year will have a chance to sit down, look at the figure, play the video and then back it. Hasbro gave us what we asked for and delivered a price better than I was expecting after all this inflation. They did their part from where I sit, now its time for the collectors to do theirs. And only 10,000 backers to fund, I mean seriously, this should be a no brainer.

[since83]

Agreed!

[Thwippersnapper]

Over 1/3 of the way feels pretty good to me. Would be a nice move to reveal some complimentary product at PulseCon to hype it up a bit like this darn Wasp we’re all longing for.

[ransomz]

I'll most likely be getting this figure, though I am hoping if they do give us a "thank you" tier, it's an articulated mini-version of this figure in ant sized mode.

[tarot]

 Since I have seen a few people think this, if you want to back the Giant-man Haslab but don't have the money NOW, don't worry. They will not take the money until after the backing period has ended on Oct 24th. If you want it and would like to back it you can do it at any point during that period. 
If you can't or don't want to, that's fine as well. It's your money, your choice. All we ask is that you don't bemoan people who want to back and let them enjoy it. We also ask you not to constantly tell us we are fools for backing it. 
That also goes to the people who are backing it. If they don't want to back it for any reason, let them be. Don't treat them like idiot for not backing something you want. like I said, their money their choice.
Remember, this is supposed to be fun. Don't let the extreme people on either side ruin it for anyone. Have fun and enjoy.

[JayC]

Shown below via yokomccann are images of the new 2023 Haslab Marvel Legend Giant Man figure from Hasbro which is on display this weekend at the Disney D23 convention. The campaign for the 24" figure launched yesterday on HasbroPulse and at this time it has 3,717 of the minimum 10k Backers needed to move into production. The figure costs $199.99 and the campaign will end on October 24, 2023.

[tarot]

On 9/9/2023 at 11:16 PM, JayC said:

Shown below via yokomccann are images of the new 2023 Haslab Marvel Legend Giant Man figure from Hasbro which is on display this weekend at the Disney D23 convention. The campaign for the 24" figure launched yesterday on HasbroPulse and at this time it has 3,717 of the minimum 10k Backers needed to move into production. The figure costs $299.99 and the campaign will end on October 24, 2023.

Slight typo there. it's 199.99. 

[RoMe00150]

Dang I'd really like this but I just bought the Giant Man Toybiz baf for $150 a few weeks back. Maybe I can make some room? The backing period ends on my birthday so it feels like a sign 

[since83]

I don't find the smile face creepy. It looks good to me.

 

[Thwippersnapper]

On 9/9/2023 at 7:33 PM, since83 said:

I don't find the smile face creepy. It looks good to me.

 

Same, I find it funny him cheesin’ like that. These different facial expressions are something I *really* wish they’d do more often on the repeat characters like Daredevil, Thor, etc, etc.