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According to sources, there are ongoing discussions for three-time Emmy nominee Pedro Pascal to portray Reed Richards, also known as Mr. Fantastic, the leader of the renowned superhero team, in Marvel Studios' Fantastic Four.While a deal has not been finalized yet, insiders reveal that the negotiations are progressing positively and scheduling details are being ironed out. Pascal, who is already committed to projects like Gladiator 2 and the highly anticipated HBO series The Last Of Us, seems to have a busy schedule ahead.

Marvel has chosen not to comment on the matter.

Source: Deadline

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On 11/15/2023 at 11:31 PM, AndyL said:

OMG. Please please please say this is a joke. Because it's not funny.

why not? Pedro Pacal is a fantastic actor. He was in the Mandolorian and the Last of Us, both of which earned him praise. He may be a bit old for this but Reed is a father and he plays father figures real well.

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On 11/15/2023 at 5:55 PM, tarot said:

why not? Pedro Pacal is a fantastic actor. He was in the Mandolorian and the Last of Us, both of which earned him praise. He may be a bit old for this but Reed is a father and he plays father figures real well.

I certainly enjoyed him in both of those roles that Tarot mentioned, but he also has experience with comic related roles having played Maxwell Lord in Wonder Woman 1984 and Agent Whiskey (Jack Daniels) in Kingsman Golden Circle. I personally think that he would be a fantastic choice! He's a very talented individual and I'd likely take him over most of the people that I had seen rumored as attached to the role (like Matt Smith, Ryan Gosling, Jake Gyllenhaal and Adam Driver).

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On 11/15/2023 at 5:55 PM, tarot said:

why not? Pedro Pacal is a fantastic actor. He was in the Mandolorian and the Last of Us, both of which earned him praise. He may be a bit old for this but Reed is a father and he plays father figures real well.

Dudes just got a bad reputation to be kind of a diva who puts themselves above the project. Much like Terrance Howard. And we know what happened to him. I guess his acting is alright. He was good in Mando's first season but he pretty much broke the lore by insisting his face be seen in the 2nd season. And honestly, eh. I guess Disney just loves working with difficult personalities. Seriously I'm more concerned about the longevity of a project that has the potential to go many films deep and having to constantly humor a difficult actor.

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Love him as an actor, but not sure I can picture him in the role. Thought Adam Driver would have fit the bill of a distant genius more. Pedro is too likeable and charismatic imo. But he is a really good actor. I'll give him a chance. Not that we have a say in it anyway. 

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On 11/16/2023 at 3:39 AM, AndyL said:

Dudes just got a bad reputation to be kind of a diva who puts themselves above the project. Much like Terrance Howard. And we know what happened to him. I guess his acting is alright. He was good in Mando's first season but he pretty much broke the lore by insisting his face be seen in the 2nd season. And honestly, eh. I guess Disney just loves working with difficult personalities. Seriously I'm more concerned about the longevity of a project that has the potential to go many films deep and having to constantly humor a difficult actor.

I don't know where the f you heard that as I have only ever seen him being called a nice guy.

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On 11/16/2023 at 8:34 AM, tarot said:

I don't know where the f you heard that as I have only ever seen him being called a nice guy.

Nice. Reading entertainment news is where the f I heard it. It's all over they place. It's not hard to find. Especially now. I happen to like the guy in the movies myself. But the guy you see on screen isn't necessarily who he is IRL. That has been proven time and again. Bill Cosby, Chevy Chase, Jerry Seinfeld, George Lopez. I could go on forever. Whether you agree with a rumor or not the truth is all rumors come from some point of experience. And yes there are as many reports that he's a nice guy as there are that he is a diva but to write one rumor off totally just because you agree with the other is just silly. When I worked a day job my boss was a nice guy IMO. But some thought he was a hot headed, heavy handed guy who expected too much. The truth was both. In my experience most divas can be really nice people. When they're getting their way.

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Oh...I'm kinda getting tired of Pedro honestly, he's been such the It guy actor for the last 5 or so years that I've kinda worn thin on him, he's in too much, but more over I don't really see him being the best Reed, he's a good actor and maybe I'll warm up to this when I see more of it, but at this point it seems so easy to have just cast him as Reed, because he's So popular right now, my other issue is he seems like he might be a bit old to carry this role for a long time, but maybe not, either way if I was casting this movie Pedro wouldn't have been my choice, but Pedro being a current fav actor for a ton of people I'm sure Disney is thinking, bums in seats.

 

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When they cast Chris Evans as Captain America, I thought.................nah.  His playing the Human Torch was still too present in my head, but he won me over as Cap.
Pedro MIGHT do the same as Reed, so I'll keep an open mind, but..............I tellya..........I'm damn picky about my FF and they've gotten pretty much every cinematic iteration dead wrong so far.
Here's hoping....

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I'm not against them going younger, mostly due to the main MCU universe not having a Reed Richards or any of the Fantastic Four in a prominent role, so it would make more sense from a story perspective. I would however still prefer if they just stuck with Krasinski. Nothing against Pedro. I just think they already cast the roll well.

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On 11/15/2023 at 10:39 PM, AndyL said:

He was good in Mando's first season but he pretty much broke the lore by insisting his face be seen in the 2nd season.

I can't find the episode of Bill Burr's podcast where he talked about this right now, but I remember him debunking it, too.

The rumor about him insisting his face be seen in season 2 seems to be the full extent of his so called "diva" antics, and like Tarot, I'm curious as to where you specifically read that, because an internet deep dive on my part didn't turn up anything on any legitimate entertainment news site like Variety, Vanity Fair, THR, Deadline, etc. I did, however, find a some youtubers and redditors perpetuating the rumor, which appears to have originated with Grace Randolph, who is notorious for making up and spreading sensational bull**** in order get clicks/views and is living proof that many rumors come from no point of experience at all.
 

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On 11/15/2023 at 2:31 PM, AndyL said:

OMG. Please please please say this is a joke. Because it's not funny.

I can't buy him as Mr. Fantastic either....for whatever reason, each attempt to bring the FF to the screen has just stumbled on itself. Some worse than others. If they try again, they really should aim for getting it as close to the book as possible. An actor old enough to fit the "classic" Reed Richards, but not someone who'll be knocking on 70 by the end of a 3-4 movie deal ( and yes, that is totally my hope, nothing that's ever been announced). 

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On 11/16/2023 at 6:26 PM, Atlantis said:

I can't buy him as Mr. Fantastic either....for whatever reason, each attempt to bring the FF to the screen has just stumbled on itself. Some worse than others. If they try again, they really should aim for getting it as close to the book as possible. An actor old enough to fit the "classic" Reed Richards, but not someone who'll be knocking on 70 by the end of a 3-4 movie deal ( and yes, that is totally my hope, nothing that's ever been announced). 

I think part of the problem is that the Fantastic Four are really quite dated,   They are a product of the early 1960's and they are all white.  Once they start tinkering with things, it messes up the dynamic, and stuff becomes foreign to what is expected.  it's a classic case of nothing really being broken, but someone steps in anyway to try and "fix " it because marketing studies and demographics and so forth.
My opinion........is that if they make it authentic, that is where they will find the appeal and the magic in it.
I think if they go full-on Jack Kirby with the look ( and I think they've been holding off up to now to keep it a unique look just for this movie), cast it the right way and launch into a good story, they will have a great film that draws an audience in a big way.   Clearly, people dance around this property and it's highly political as a result, in the sense that money, ego, tone etc have all affected each iteration up until now. 
It's been like throwing muck at the walls to see what sticks, and being afraid or not being allowed ( or just not knowing HOW) to handle it the way it should be handled.  Spider-Man went through a decade easy of development-hell before they got the first movie made, and it still had elements that were controversial.  The repeated mantra for this movie is " they have to get this right, they WANT TO GET IT RIGHT", and .........more than anything........they do.

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On 11/17/2023 at 8:01 AM, TheArrow said:

"....part of the problem is that the Fantastic Four are really quite dated,   They are a product of the early 1960's and they are all white.  Once they start tinkering with things, it messes up the dynamic, and stuff becomes foreign to what is expected.  it's a classic case of nothing really being broken, but someone steps in anyway to try and "fix " it because marketing studies and demographics and so forth.....My opinion........is that if they make it authentic, that is where they will find the appeal and the magic in it.
I think if they go full-on Jack Kirby with the look ( and I think they've been holding off up to now to keep it a unique look just for this movie), cast it the right way and launch into a good story, they will have a great film that draws an audience in a big way..."   

Understood. At the same time, I've heard this view before- that they're dated and from the 60s. But all of the lynchpins of the Marvel universe were from the 60s. Its not like Spider-Man, Iron Man, the Avengers, Daredevil etc. all came out decades after the Fantastic Four; they all came out in '61-'64. So it shouldn't matter. If the FF is "dated" then the others would be too.

As far as them all being white, again, that's true of nearly all the comics that were published during the early 60s (not excusing it but that's what happened). In this case, a brilliant scientist, his girlfriend, her kid brother, and the scientist's astronaut best friend. Not unusual that this very small circle, this family, would be one color. Now, its true that Marvel comics in particular made some stabs in race and culture diversifying, and absolutely should have gone way further than they did. Far as movies go, there's no reason why a supporting cast shouldn't reflect the society we live in; Dr. Richards relies heavily upon the scientific community, the government -military complex, etc. I could easily see him having allies and rivals of all races, that would flesh out the story, not to mention the political implications of civilian space flight and superhuman citizens. I cannot wait to see how they all react when Mr. Fantastic opens the Negative Zone and Annihilus rips out....

One thing they have going for them now that they're in the MCU, and appearing at this time instead of at the very beginning, is that many of those oversights and omissions can now be fixed. That, along with going the Kirby route as you said, should be the ticket. 

Mr.Fantastic- Anson Mount

Invisible Woman- Kaley Cuco

The Human Torch- Montana Jordan

The Thing- Jared Keeso

Jay Tavare- Wyatt Wingfoot

Charles Parnell, new character, chief doctor, scientist, General or CIA/SHIELD handler

NO DOCTOR DOOM IN THE FIRST MOVIE. Set him up for the sequel.

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Pedro is amazing, he is literally in everything these days. But damn if Krasinski didnt look like he stepped out of an FF comic. Plus he felt like Reed. (That was a weird thing to write). I don't get the hate for Krasinski's take.

I agree they haven't cracked the formula for making the FF films  as incredible as the comics have. I was a fan of the Alba/ Evans films as they got the dynamic right but the stories we pretty weak. Never saw the Miles Teller version and never will. Hate that guy. Plus what did they do to the poor Thing?!?! Guess they took it upon themselves to settle that famous argument from Mall Rats.

Plus honestly, the cast is the least of the MCUs problems. Give us a story that brings the magic back and the rest will take care of itself. 

 

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On 11/17/2023 at 3:39 PM, Satam said:

Folks, discussions about whiteness and diversity almost never lead to anywhere good on these boards. I strongly suggest taking the conversation in another direction.

Understood.
And I'd implore and encourage another direction. I do NOT want what i said to be a springboard for something negative.

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I haven't liked the casting of any of the FF movies to date.  I think they either trip up on the looks or the portrayal of the characters.  I'm picky......sue ( no, not THAT Sue ;)) me. 
Reed is supposed to be this intense guy, but he loves his family to the point that he can be dragged away from the intensity, but only for a while.   Sue is the darling of the family and the most sensible.  She's the most grounded--and her moniker " the Invisible Woman" isn't a slam on her, it's a warning ABOUT her.  She's the unexpected x-factor of the team, the one you (literally) don't see coming.
Johnny is the one trying to compensate--------that's why he's the jokester.  He knows he's never going to be as smart as Reed, cannot muster the good sense of his sis, so he plays the little brother.
His immaturity is more of a shield than anything---he's nothing without his family. In a way, he's the one who fits in the least, not Ben.

Ben........is the tragedy.  He had everything, and lost everything on in one go.  He's the brave face, and in some ways even more of a "stoic" than Reed, because he hides his terrible sense of loss and pain underneath his skin.  His anger is out there on the surface--but that's a deflection. He's like being fully-abled, but deeply disabled.

No, those are my interpretations........and I don't think anyone cast has really caught on to those traits. The dynamic in a ensemble is to form a singular, despite being a group--each separate person bringing something distinct to create a whole.  Kirk/Spock/McCoy is a good example of this, it's why they remain iconic together.  The FF are iconic as the four, they just need the right chemistry with the right actors to realize it.

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On 11/16/2023 at 2:13 PM, Satam said:

I can't find the episode of Bill Burr's podcast where he talked about this right now, but I remember him debunking it, too.

The rumor about him insisting his face be seen in season 2 seems to be the full extent of his so called "diva" antics, and like Tarot, I'm curious as to where you specifically read that, because an internet deep dive on my part didn't turn up anything on any legitimate entertainment news site like Variety, Vanity Fair, THR, Deadline, etc. I did, however, find a some youtubers and redditors perpetuating the rumor, which appears to have originated with Grace Randolph, who is notorious for making up and spreading sensational bull**** in order get clicks/views and is living proof that many rumors come from no point of experience at all.
 

Well isn't the fact that they had to debunk it and run at least a bit of damage control at all mean the rumor existed and probably had at least a bit of truth to it? Yes I also agree Grace Randolph is human garbage but she is also seems to be the first person to be blamed for most rumors they seek to squash in the entertainment industry so she's just the easiest target. And I'm sure she's fine with it just as any attention seeker should be. Of course Google also does a great job of sheltering the appointed ones so it's going to be a bit harder to get through the censors there but I haven't used Google or actually any other heavily censored search engine in years so I might have a slightly skewed perspective of what other people are allowed to see. I must stress again I have no problem with PP as far as his ability to pull off the part. I only speak in concern with the longevity of the project. In today's MCU what were to happen if he left the project after one movie? Would they do something completely sane and logical like just replace him like they with Rhodie or Ross or would they do something unreasonable like with Black Panther and act like there was literally no one else on the planet that could fill the role of T'Challa and just flip to another completely different character?

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