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  1. But wait...if you look at Homecoming, Cosmic Spider and Moon Knight (both at $60) are selling for more than the suited Spidey figure ($38). They were in the movie, right? Oh wait... Logic flawed.
  2. Since you're so desperate for links that you're too lazy to look up yourself, here are a couple from the FFH set: https://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Marvel-Legends-Hydro-Man-Collectible/dp/B07Q4XCRMN/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=marvel+legends+far+from+home&qid=1628782380&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/Spider-Man-Marvel-Legends-Spider-Woman-Collectible/dp/B07Q61WC1B/ref=pd_bxgy_img_1/139-0605727-1001029?pd_rd_w=wGiJg&pf_rd_p=c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=11FARYR77MJV2DAPX2JX&pd_rd_r=4ff65a3d-5483-4b31-b9a2-e822732d19ea&pd_rd_wg=zGLGS&pd_rd_i=B07Q61WC1B&psc=1 This is just two from that wave at or below MSRP (and this is Amazon-lol). You can also find them, as well as Scorpion and Doppleganger on sale or below MSRP at BBTS and/or Dorkside. And forget about ebay...I can find all four there below MSRP accordingly. So your claim is that "selling well" is two thirds of the wave selling at or below value two years after release of the movie. With the others still available in the $30 range. Compared to Homecoming which, as I pointed out earlier, are all now selling at 2-4x release price. You proceeded our discussion by telling others that the new wave are all going to sell like hotcakes "just because their Spiderman IPs". And claimed the Shang-Chi line was discounted everywhere because the movie wasn't released yet. So, now that I've done your busy work...do you still think this is "selling well" or are you going to go back to talking about the ticket sales? According to your logic, these should all be $100+ in after-market by now, much less available at a discount. EDIT: Food for thought--Captain Marvel ($426+ million) received 'generally favorable' reviews as well but I can buy the whole wave new for $60. Tell me more about how ticket sales correlate to toy sales.
  3. You're confused because we're talking about toy sales and watanabe has veered off on this tangent that exclusively about the quality of the movie. I really couldn't care about the movie at this point--the toys didn't sell well. When watanabe realized that they didn't, in fact, sell well, he continued to assert that the movie was great because...well, I have no idea? Because he has nothing left to argue about? This really all started when he chimed in claiming that people here said they "hated the movie" and asserted that the toys "did sell well". Neither of which is true.
  4. No need to repeat yourself, we get it; you're still caught up in this tangent about the movie that now has nothing to do with the toys. Because you can't possibly believe people didn't like the movie as much as you did. Roger that.
  5. If you can't be bothered to use Google yourself or visit Metacritic, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. I'm certainly not going to do it for you. Again, grasping at straws. And now just plain lazy. As for the toys, half of the set can still be purchased in many places for below MSRP. The others average around $30 in the secondary market, as opposed to 'Homecoming' set, all of which couldn't be found for less than $40 (except Vulture) two years after the movie and now all average around $60-70. For the record, I've already proven that box office numbers mean nothing (see above). So the two quantifiable ways you mentioned are actually personal opinion and published reviews, depending on how much value you place on the latter.
  6. a) The movie wasn't as popular as most Spider-Man movies: fact b) The toys didn't and continue to sell poorly compared to all other Spider-Man waves or single figures: fact In other words, you just cherry-picked one thing out of my post to focus on and cited box office performance in order to "prove" something. What, I'm not sure. But it didn't dispute either 'a' or 'b' above. You know what else grossed a lot? Grown Ups, the Last Airbender, TMNT, The Smurfs, Transformers: AoE (made more than SM!), Jurassic World (also made more). All of these movies sucked. So, again, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make as it relates to my original post. Except that maybe you just really liked the movie and can't believe that anyone didn't or that the corresponding toys didn't sell well (they didn't) so you're just grasping at straws.
  7. I don't recall anyone saying people "hated" the movie but it certainly wasn't as popular as the previous entries. Heck, Spiderman 3 did well at the box office but is often panned and parodied. The toys were (and some are still) easy to obtain at MSRP or below. Trust me, I ordered the set from Pulse thinking I'd need to pre-order or be left in a lurch and then I see the things on Amazon six months later--all but Mysterio--at $15-18. That's not selling well. Do you know what an anecdote is? Ignoring the reality of a situation to try and sound "right" about something doesn't mean everything else is anecdotal. It just means you don't want to be wrong, regardless of tangible facts.
  8. I'm not a huge Spider-Man fan but this wave looks pretty promising. At the very least, I'll pick up JJJ and the Dr. Strange (who has been severely under-represented in ML for years). How good the wave sells will largely be dependent upon how good the movie is. Far From Home was pretty awful and the only figure that sold well there was Mysterio.
  9. The numbers are just trickling in on this now. Barely hitting 100/day (if that) and now need to be at 175+/day to make it. They really fumbled on this one with their projections. Should have been 10k for base, 12k and 14k (and so on) for the extras. Bummer, it would have make a cool addition to my collection.
  10. Oh great...another one of those "this figure should be a millimeter taller" people...
  11. Prediction: It'll probably barely make it to 14k and Nova will be included anyway. Even if the have to extend the deadline. Statistically, they're on par to hit just over 14,300 if the purchasing trend continues. I can't see them scrapping the whole project because it either needed an extra week or was only slightly short of their goal. It was a ridiculously high goal to begin with. They know it. We know it. Get the backpeddling out of the way. And be more reasonable with projections going forward because, hey, we're still mid-recession/pandemic guys...
  12. Just remember...none of these movies would exist without Happy (John Favreau). He deserves an MCU figure just as much as Stan does.
  13. I was all excited about this until I read the 16k part. I mean, they were on track for 14k by end of month but this is gonna be a stretch; 200/day for the rest of the month... 😞 It'd be a a real shame for her to not be included with the figure.
  14. Her assumption being that people would flock to the theatres to see this instead of just watching it at home. The pandemic isn't over yet. Hell, 1/3 of the US population either hasn't gotten the vaccine or refuses to do it because they think it causes cancer or some nonsense. Add to that the movie...just wasn't very good. Her story arc is over and it was destined to be 'meh' anyway--her supporting cast was far more interesting than her character and we might actually see some of them again. Anyway, good riddance. I never thought her character was all that integral to the MCU and I've never liked her as an actress. Good luck to her finding a studio that will want her for future projects now.
  15. I'm on board with Excalibur but do we really need a full F4 wave...again? This will be the third one in four years. Heck, you can still get the last wave for MSRP (or less) on Amazon. There doesn't really seem to be a demand for these guys, regardless of outfit.
  16. The What If...? series is a long-running comic series. I suspect that's why they went with the classic cartoon looks. These were all inspired by existing storylines.
  17. Vulture - being a Target exclusive means I'll have a slim chance of getting it. Which is a shame, since I've wanted a deluxe version of this for years. Watcher - something we've all been asking for for a while now...and it's the BAF for a wave that makes no sense. Where Hydra Stomper would have. Should have switched these two. Galactus - good opportunity to do some major plugging/reveals here but barely said anything about him. Missed opportunity. All in all, great reveals but poor avenues for distribution. I suspect the Watcher will be RRed at some point as a deluxe so they can re-use the model but it'll be quite a while. I sort of feel like they're releasing too many figures these days. I used to be able to keep up easily with new wave releases but now there are FIVE in production that I have on pre-order and more keep coming before those are even out...
  18. Have to admit...I wasn't a fan of the comics and I probably won't like the figures much either. 😞 I never much liked the premise for the stories and (mostly) the outcomes of the battles. But I'm also old and realize that most people here don't care about how these figures were inspired in the first place. 😉 Off-topic here, but I hope they say more about Galactus today as well. That project is losing steam and fast. I suspect that the first bonus is going to be not one but two heralds; Surfer and Nova. Of course, if they just outright said that, they'd see a spike in sales immediately. But they're stubborn and want it to get funded on its own merits. Either way, thing needs 10k backers by end of month to be on track for just the 14k...
  19. He looks good, I just wish they'd have made him bigger. To scale with the movie. He just looks like a mini version this way. If I've learned anything from pre-ordering these deluxe figures, it'll be that they're discounted 25% or more after the first month of release, so I'm going to wait a bit for this one.
  20. That's a horrible analogy. The price of the figure is $399. For Galactus. End of story. It's not "If you back this, we'll give you more!" The 'fan entitlement' he's talking about is dead-on; it's something like "We're owed more". Except they're not, they either buy it for what's promised or they don't. Additionally, this sort of behavior us just toxic in general. Not only because it falsely builds expectations but because it influences the purchase decisions of other people who are perfectly ok with the product as is. Add to that the fact that you have dozens of posters on here chiming in about what the bonus figures/features should be, most of which admittedly aren't going to buy the thing anyway. "It'd be worth it if they added Nova!" "It should be $50 cheaper!" "If it's Surfer, it's a rip-off!" Ok, but would you buy it if any of these things were true? No. So just be quiet and move on. Opinions are moot here if they have no true relevance when it comes to making the purchase. It's effectively pointless whining. In short, the "reward" is the item you buy. Most people don't buy things in general because they're expecting some sort of mystery gift bag that comes with.
  21. Ok, I digress--I didn't realize that everyone here was an expert in economics, had a PhD in Business Marketing and also worked for Hasbro. Everyone obviously knows exactly what the costs of materials and manufacture are. And that Hasbro is just being greedy by not selling this for $100 and wanting to make a profit. Why do I get the feeling that everyone who dislikes the figure and project simply can't afford it? The project will fund even if it gets 150 backers/day from now until end of August. Which it's doing easily. As for the cost of plastic, if you think this is bad, consider how little goes into each of the standard figures. Or GI Joes/Transformers that cost even more than today's figures when you factor inflation. I think what they 'learned' from the Sentinel is how much of a demand for these things there actually is. So they took on a more ambitious project with loftier targets. Kudos to them. In short--if you don't want it, don't buy it. Or at least stop complaining about a product you have no intention of or simply can't purchase.
  22. Message: Don't ever buy anything made of plastic because it's a rip-off? What else is made of plastic that you consider worth more for whatever reason?
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