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  1. Of course that's what they're gonna say. They have never admitted they've done anything wrong. Ever. I hope this is a slap of reality to them and they shape their isht up. They got super greedy, they took the fans for granted and they though we were too stupid to know when we're being gouged. Not only is the price way too high but the stretch goals are way too far apart. I was skeptical from the start but I didn't want to be part of the reason this thing didn't fund, but I've pulled my my support because i'm fairly certain this thing is toast. Even if it does fund there's no way they'll hit 12,000. If it does, as always, I will be happy to eat my short. I must say it was pretty cool to log into pulse and see the backers drop in real time. Gotta enjoy the little things. Message to Hasbro. Now, take away those $2.00 led lights you've been trying to charge an extra $150.00 for and drop those Brimstone Risers if you need to save some cash, include the Robbie head swap and put that beeyatch into production and put it on the shelf, or as an Amazon or Walmart or Target or Etailer exclusive and charge $150.00 for it and get to work for Giant-Man as next year's Haslab. The fandom has spoken. We're no gonna be your mindless consumers anymore. We sat through 3 price hikes, being charged 5 extra dollars for stupid "retro" boxes, the creation of a thief's paradise withe the ridiculous decision to no longer include even a sliver of a window in your packaging, the reduction of the female figures to almost a single body mold, little to no focus on proper scale, the constant inclusion of bit and insignificant characters into spots in waves that could have been better utilized, and to top it all off, been verbally chided and disrespected by your sales team. Get it together Hasbro. Without us there is no you.
    2 points
  2. Just because there are people who can't afford certain price points doesn't mean those products shouldn't exist. Hasbro releases tons of product constantly at different price points, there will always be something for everyone. Furthermore, there are people out there who can't afford a $100 box set or a $50 2-pack. Does that mean those things shouldn't exist either? It's a hobby, not a necessity, we collect because we like things, and if you want and can afford something $300+, you shouldn't be denied that aspect of collecting just because others can't.
    2 points
  3. What you're saying does make sense on it's own, but the problem I have with Hasbro's logic is that they were ok with making a wide-released character who's a Nazi? A guy who's literal bio on Marvel's own site right now says that he was trained by Hitler himself?? Speaking only for myself, I've never personally had any dealings with a Supernatural being who wanted me to do bad things in order that my soul spend an eternity in torment in his lair. As a man of colour however, what I can say is that I've had to deal with racism both subtle and violent since I was 6 years old. Been chased by skinheads, harassed by police for no good reason that I could tell, profiled in stores and restaurants and so forth. But no....a fictional character who embodies the worst and most savage form of that behavior and ideology...that's totally ok! Totally fine. But a fictional being who's based on a Supernatural monster that no one can flatly prove exists...Bad!! Bad, bad, bad!! Whether they're lying or just plain knee-jerk clueless, I obviously can't say, but whatever the case their argument is weak and doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Yes, this doesn't change anything and they're going to do what they're going to do, but I can at least call BS on it, and refuse to be baited by this cheap tactic they love using so much.
    2 points
  4. I'm right here with you. I'm not one to usually write something off as greed. A company has got to make profit to keep making product, I understand that maybe better than most, but there is nothing, absolutely no thing that justifies the price of this thing. Then with the multiple price hikes, the constant multi-packs with only one new figure and the reasoning behind the higher prices of "exclusive" product, there really is no other explaination. Let's not forget there has been a change at the helm of Hasbro's toy division and insiders in the industry say he is basically the Bob Chapek of the toy world. If this thing is gonna work out we gotta let him know we're not idiots.
    1 point
  5. As others have said, the price tag is only an issue because it isn’t a slam dunk project (Most didn’t bat an eye over the price of the last two projects because they were absolute must haves, and this car isn’t that). Including Mephisto to get this across the finish line is just shitty, and doesn’t honor loyal collectors who really wanted him and don’t need or want the car (or might not have the funds for such a big purchase). Many who back this will probably do so begrudgingly. Curious what other ideas for projects they have toyed with. Why not a $200 Project? Say a collection of Skrull versions of characters (like a ten pack)? Or a whole team in one shot (Gen X, Marauders, Starjammers, New Mutants)…or two Ghost Riders on bikes (which I wish this one would have been).
    1 point
  6. I imagine there's a lot of collectors in my position, the car looks fantastic but I can't justify $350 on it even if it might be worth that if all the tiers are reached. And really, that just comes down to lack of interest in the product itself. I put down $400 on Galactus, knowing that I could pay it off over time. I could very well do the same here, but no matter how good it looks, neither the charger or the potential tier figures appeal to me to drop that much on it. A good example of this would be if it was an AoS Robbie and Hellcharger, with some of the Agents as tiers. Day 1 backing for me, and that would only be slightly different than what the current offering is. Galactus and the Sentinel were huge names, appealing to many many people. The way the campaign is going right now, it isn't going to fund, I'm not sure exactly why Hasbro is deciding to not reveal the rest of the tiers now, I think those will be the only things that would get it there.
    1 point
  7. I don't usually make this argument, but in this case, I really think it's greed. For the Sentinel, we knew how many sales were needed for each stretch goal, which were 1,000 sales apart from each other. They went through those goals quickly, and eventually added a last-minute goal to maximize sales. Now they want to wait and see how sales go before they even mention what the various goals are. I think this is backfiring. The point of the goals is supposed to be to entice more people to buy. For some people, it's going to backfire. If they don't think goals will be hit, they won't order, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
    1 point
  8. I think it will get backed - there are always hordes of last minute speculators who buy these projects hoping to triple their money down the line. Personally I think it would be a mistake to do so for this project, I just don't see a ton of return on your investment down the line, but I've been wrong before, many times in fact. But with this car there isn't the same type of wow factor that there has been with the last two Marvel Haslab projects. When you're more interested in Mephisto then the car, you've got serious problems with the project.
    1 point
  9. I think part of the problem is the choice of vehicle. Robbie is a fairly new character with a smaller fan base. If thry had chosen a car like, say, I don't know...the SPIDER-BUGGY this woulda been funded overnight. Ok, that's a stretch, but it probably wouldn't've been as tough as this one seems to be. Oooh...and a stretch goal could been parts to make it the Dead-Buggy...
    1 point
  10. I think the Hasbro team knows that, as much as the Hellcharger was obviously a misfire, changing the “rules” midstream in order to get it funded would just backfire on future projects. Better to just ride it out and hopefully learn for the next one.
    1 point
  11. No interest here either; certainly not at that price. But their decisions are just chaotic. Its a mixture of ineptitude, greed, and contradictions that make no sense. However the upside on this one is, fans can get it without paying that outrageous amount for the other two figures.
    1 point
  12. Another dick move by Hasbro, to let many of us pull the trigger on the set only to have this come out later at a much smaller price. For me it's OK. I wanted Longshot and I love that Dazzler's head sculpt, but for those who bought it just for Mojo it's a kick in the cubes. I do like the trend of them offering these larger figures as single Deluxe's but it would be nice for Hasbro to let people know the score before they let them get the impression this is the only way they were gonna get that figure. Kinda like the BS they're pulling with the Mephisto figure. I dunno about anyone else but over the last few months it feels like Hasbro's really doing the comic fandom dirty. Almost like we'll always come back no matter how bad we get burned. Personally I never thought I'd abandon ML, but I'm really at the end of my rope with these guys. Especially after this $120 maximum value Haslab they tried to convince was worth $350.
    1 point
  13. I'm not sure that will happen, but even if it does, it could be a good thing. A signal to hasbro that their consumers are onto them and just not willing to buy anything at any price they put out. They then have their front men do a "heartfelt" message, i.e. "we hear you", low key "we'll do better", and a year or so release a Mephisto/ Blackheart two pack. Or have him in their Deluxe Dr. Strange set (with removable cloak, new head, new magic effects, Orb of Agamotto stand, crystal ball, and Clea figure). Or... Well, you get the picture. Bottom line, they wouldn't necessarily take decades to do it. I'm not even sure Marvel Legends will be around that long lol
    1 point
  14. This is a Fu$#&ng insult ... they charged 100 extra for the "exclusive" set! 50US Longshot and 50US another Dazzler? Canceling my order now! They really taking us for dumb zombies.
    1 point
  15. I wonder if this direction is the fault of the HasLab team being in charge of the operation. IIRC it was due to the failure of the Star Wars Rancor that they reorganized how they did HasLabs and the team “responsible” was changed from the product marketing group to the group that executes them and the marketing teams were co-leaders or subordinates. They made it sound like “we aren’t in charge of them anymore”. That’s what I remember. So the marketing team probably presented a handful of ideas and the HasLab team decided this was the one that would make the most sense. Only it doesn’t. What about an all-new LED flame tires bike with a Johnny Blaze GR? The price point could be closer to $150-175. Then stretch goals of DK Ghost Rider figure with his bike’s add-on pieces (like the HISS Tank HasLab) to encourage multiple sales. At a lower price point you could buy 2 for the price of a single HellCharger. Or make the initial offering a pair of bikes with the JB and DK figures. The bikes could be molded a little differently (since they are a lot different styles) but a lot of the parts internally can be identical. the HellCharger looks awesome, but it’s just all around a poor value. It’s like they don’t see the world’s in a recession and a lot of people don’t have the kind of disposable income they had a couple years ago.
    1 point
  16. I'm still on the fence, but leaning towards not backing this Haslab. I agree with those that feel Giant Man would have been a much better choice this year. Depending on how tall they decided to make him, the buck could be used for sooo many other large characters down the line - Goliath, Atlas, Ultimo, Super Adaptoid, Living Monolith, Eternity, Living Tribunal, In-Betweener, comic accurate Surtur, etc. I think Marvel Haslabs, with maybe a few exceptions, lend themselves best to character figures, not vehicles. The whole line is based on characters after all, not characters in or with vehicles, like GI Joe and others. The Fantasticar, Quinjet and Blackbird notwithstanding, collectors really want large characters from this line.
    1 point
  17. There are so many decisions here that don't make sense. The price, the standalone Robbie, why they though the HellCharger was the way to go? Even using Ghost RIder's Anniversary doesn't make sense, since it isn't that Ghost Rider and even if it does get backed, it won't be until next year before it is released and therefore it won't be an anniversary piece
    1 point
  18. I'm just gonna put this one out there- saying "we couldn't do this any other way" is coming from the same lads who told us the mistake on Omega Sentinel was because they use google images for their reasearch? You never know....
    1 point
  19. just got the new Comic Black Panther from Wakanda Forever Wave looks like this wave is bound to come in full soon.
    1 point
  20. I totally get what your saying. The thing is they didn’t give in to those folks then and stop making video games nor have they now even though many people still feel that way. And while many people are using phrases like satan in plastic form, Mephisto isn’t satan any more than disneys hades is satan.
    1 point
  21. Yeah, it doesn't matter where you live but you would think that a company would want their customer to be able to actually get their products
    1 point
  22. Really all they need is one warehouse someplace in Canada, just 1, and they certainly have one as far as I know already, so I don't understand what the deal is.
    1 point
  23. came in to say this, You can open it up to Europe, but not Canada?
    1 point
  24. I understand your idea about production minimums, but what you’re describing is unfeasible to say the least. 1. Storing things is expensive, and virtually all modern supply chains are designed to limit or eliminate having product on hand doing nothing. Your idea would have required Hasbro to store thousands (tens of thousands?) of half finished figures for five years. Any accountant would have a heart attack at that idea. It would literally be more cost effective to destroy the entire lot than to just sit on them for no reason. 2. Your idea would mean that they were still producing BP figures at the factory months after they hit retail and decided that they weren’t selling well. There is no way that happened. The manufacturing would have been finished well before then, possibly even before the first figures were hitting stores. 3. Hasbro does similar reissues like this wave ALL THE TIME. Their production pipeline is clearly able to spin up to make reissues/repaints without too much hassle. 4. Again, your narrative is entirely dependent on the idea that the original BP wave didn’t sell well, but you appear to be the only one who remembers that being the case. As I said originally, the idea that these are somehow leftover figures just isn’t reasonable.
    1 point
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  26. Forget Hasbro! The real question here is ... what is Diamond waiting for to relaunch their Mephisto to kill this Haslab? Im so happy with my new Watcher and it didnt cost 350 US!
    1 point
  27. This is not just a hobby it is a passion, and everyone shoulb be able to enjoy their passion. These haslab figures could be done differently so that a wider amount of people can enjoy it
    1 point
  28. In my opinion figure collecting should be for everyone, all the figures should be available for everyone. There is no such thing as different categories of collectors. Not everyone is able to give so much money for figures, i think it is time collectors show Hasbro that they should treat everyone the same. I HOPE that this haslab fails, and that hasbro change their ideias about this type of projects.
    1 point
  29. The price isnt the main problem, There will always be people who complain about the price. It happens with every Haslab. If it was $250 they'd say it shouldnt cost more than $150. I think the bigger problem with this campaign is people are like me who just aren't that interested in a Robbie and Car. If it was cheaper I am sure more would back it but I also know if it was something most people really wanted they wouldn't hesitate to pay $350. I think it will reach 9k backers but it may take most the time. As much as its slowed down its looking less and less likely it will make 9k by Sept 23rd so then it will be 1 figure down. We know Mephisto is coming, so if that was really going to be a big motivator I think it would already be showing its impact.
    1 point
  30. Posted this on my Facebook page but here: I don't think people remember or choose to "forget" but we pretty much reacted the same way with last year's Galactus. We thought it was overpriced and only had the changeable faceplates as the base with NO extra figure yet. The project wasn't even fully back after 2 weeks, so the team revealed the Nova figure which allow it to not only get back but boast past Nova. Silver Surfer slowed it down a bit, but it was unlocked faster than expected and Morg zoomed back the numbers. The least said of Doomlatus the better but at least it made it past the goal. What I'm trying to say is yes, while this will get back. 3 days an nearly 3,649 Backers. That's not even including the fact that they haven't opened up to the rest of EU or other countries that don't have Pulse (which I'm hoping will be sometime early next week). However, the Tier will be the deciding factor for most that I can agree with so I do think people should wait on that if they want. The price is still #$## though
    1 point
  31. Well put! I can't buy that excuse either, because look at all the other "devil" type figures they've sold. Blackheart, Red Goblin, Surtur....and the whole "but Surtur's just an asgardian" doesnt hold up either, because the average person doesn't know or care about that. Mephisto had an appearance on an episode of Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon show- no one had a problem then. So why now? Its as if people are "galloping pell-mell" back to the ignorance of the dark ages. Another point is the notion that some exec is afraid of bad press- and the only people who would possibly complain about this character, are people who dont know who he is, probably never read a Marvel comic, never bought a Marvel comic, never bought and will never buy a Marvel Legend. They're more concerned about people who don't buy their stuff than they are about the fans who DO? The fans that GOT them where they are. Anyway, for those who want the figure, I sure hope they'll release him in a way that's not attached to the haslab. And maybe we'll finally get the Warriors Three. And a corrected Vision. And some Golden Age figures. And Red Wolf....
    1 point
  32. Yeah, I never bought the whole Hasbro can't release Mephisto because he looks like the devil. They have already released figures like Surtur who also look like portrayals of Satin. Also he isn't even the Devil, he just looks a bit like him, so you can't use that excuse either. Also if they are afraid (which they have never actually stated), they they could just release Mephisto in one of his other forms like Buff LIzard Man
    1 point
  33. I considered it and watched videos checking it out but it was TOO big and the lack of functioning doors turned me off. I dont care about Robbie, mephisto, or black heart so this campaign really wasnt for me. I was just interested, in general, for vehicles in Marvel legends and GI Joe classified scale.
    1 point
  34. I dunno. Kind of a dick move on Hasbro's part if this is the only way we're ever gonna get a Mephisto. Whereas it would be the tier reward that would tip the scale in deciding whether to back the Engine of Vengeance project for me, I just have to think what a slap to the face it is to those people that have spent their disposable income to support the line but just can't budget that $350 comfortably into their expenditures. It makes me think back to when I was younger and I had trouble working the original ML into my monthly, and that was at $8. The notion that Hasbro's would never do or Disney would never allow a Mephisto (or even Blackheart) into mass production is one that i both agree and disagree with. Personally I don't see it hitting the shelves of stores like Walmart or Target, but I could see them doing it as an online etailer store as they've done in the past and possibly at a premium price point (perhaps with a throne or as a 2 pack) that just puts it outta range of most child collectors. This is a questionable practice to be sure but it's clear Hasbro's intends on this being a factor in driving sales just by the way the set up that parting shot. I'm about 99 percent sure I will eventually get in on this thing in the end but I'm still gonna watch and see, just in case they do something really stupid to make me withhold my support at the last minute.
    1 point
  35. Summing up my thoughts here on the latest Haslab. I'm in the camp that I don't care enough about Robbie Reyes to pay $350 for this. If or when Mephisto and Blackheart get announced as tier items and if they get unlocked then I will re-evaluate. As for the price itself. Not to shocking when you look at the GIJoe Classified HISS Tank which was $300. That was a property Hasbro owns so no additional licensing costs. The $350 doesnt account for just the 1 figure and car, its for everything. The tiers items arent free, the expense for those are worked into the overall project. I know they make it sound like the stretch goals are "Free" extra stuff but thats marketing. So assuming everything is included your looking at paying $350 for at a minimum of 4 Marvel Legends figures (Maybe more). If the two stretch goals are Mephisto and Blackheart those are going to be larger more deluxe like figures. So Robbie as Ghost Rider, Robbie as human, Deluxe Mephisto and Deluxe Blackheart, plus a 6" scale muscle car with alternate parts to be a regular car or one on fire along with LED lights. So when you look at the big picture the $350 price based on today's market prices is not outrageous. Again I can understand if the character isn't exciting enough to want to pay that much but that's different than trying to convince yourself Hasbro is trying to rip you off. For those saying Hasbro can release a figure like Mephisto at regular retail, I think your crazy. I don't see Hasbro's corporate heads green lighting such a figure. This is the same company that seemingly will no longer release Cobra Commander with a hood, something they themselves created. Hasbro is a publicly traded company that by the vast majority of the public is viewed as making products for kids. All it would take is some major publication posting a headline saying something like Hasbro makes action figure of the Devil for your kids to buy to set shareholders in a tizzy. Is that stupid? Sure, but doesn't change the reality of the world we live in today. So no I don't think Hasbro is lying when they say this is the only way they could get the greenlight to do the character. Sutur while similar is an Asgadian being, not the Devil. Mephisto for all intents and purposes was created as the Marvel Universe devil who rules over hell. McFarlane which isn't a publicly traded company would def be more likely willing to do a character like Mephisto, of course McFarlane can't even include guns with their DC figures thanks to the WB corporate mentality, so there you go. If all you want is Mephisto and have no interest in Ghost Rider and his car then I wouldn't advocate you back this though you could probably sell the car and Ghost Rider and make some of that money back or just wait and buy Mephisto on the secondary market. While you will likely have to pay over $100 for him that way its still cheaper than $350. You can also try and seek out the Marvel Select Mephisto which is a solid figure that works well with ML. Again your likely gonna have to pay over $100 for it but that's still cheaper than $350. For those who say Hasbro is crazy for this, well this campaign is less than 24hrs old and already has over 3k backers. Will it sell as well as Galactus and Sentinel? I doubt it, but its gonna sell. You can waste time and energy getting mad at those that are perfectly willing to pay $350 for this but its not going to change anything. If you don't like it, can't afford it or whatever reason you have for not backing it then DON'T, no one is gonna think less of you if you don't. But (and this isn't towards anyone in particular just those in general in this hobby who seemingly try and scream bloody murder every time Hasbro launches these Haslabs) except the fact there are those who are perfectly fine getting these things and move on.
    1 point
  36. Hasbro does not respect marvel legends fans, it is just to much for a ghost rider. Screw them
    1 point
  37. I am not paying £300+ for a god damn Car that I can get for £40-£50
    1 point
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