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Most are generally Genwummer of Marvel Legends. Everything TB did is god like and everything Hasbro does is #$@#.

 

Another reason is they don't like his growl. Except for the fact he has 2 head!!! one is growling (which I think would look great for action shots) and another head we haven't even say.

 

then their the Select Thing, which is waaaaaay too large for ML.

 

personally I think it's the best looking thing ever.

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Most are generally Genwummer of Marvel Legends. Everything TB did is god like and everything Hasbro does is #$@#.

 

Another reason is they don't like his growl. Except for the fact he has 2 head!!! one is growling (which I think would look great for action shots) and another head we haven't even say.

 

then their the Select Thing, which is waaaaaay too large for ML.

 

personally I think it's the best looking thing ever.

Waitaminute! There are pics of the Thing figure?!?! Where who? You're absolutely correct about the attitude toward Toybiz vs Hasbro. It's just like the "who's better, yesteryear players vs current. The thing with Hasbro is we can see the obvious improvements anatomically as well as facially on both Marvel and MCU figures, and are light years ahead of anything Toybiz ever did (and with the exception of the Blue wasp, I have every Toybiz figure so I would know). The one thing TB still has (and most likely always will) are their washes on the paint apps. Other than that, now that we have stuff to compare with, the Toybiz stuff (for the most part) is downright ugly. It's the main reason I abandoned my "no redos" campaign.

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I dunno. It's weird. It looks good. Sculpt is good, looks to be of somewhat accurate proportions, two heads. Not sure, something just isn't right. Oh yeah, in the attempt to make it look more realistic, it ended up looking nothing like the thing.

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Most are generally Genwummer of Marvel Legends. Everything TB did is god like and everything Hasbro does is #$@#.

 

Another reason is they don't like his growl. Except for the fact he has 2 head!!! one is growling (which I think would look great for action shots) and another head we haven't even say.

 

then their the Select Thing, which is waaaaaay too large for ML.

 

personally I think it's the best looking thing ever.

Waitaminute! There are pics of the Thing figure?!?! Where who? You're absolutely correct about the attitude toward Toybiz vs Hasbro. It's just like the "who's better, yesteryear players vs current. The thing with Hasbro is we can see the obvious improvements anatomically as well as facially on both Marvel and MCU figures, and are light years ahead of anything Toybiz ever did (and with the exception of the Blue wasp, I have every Toybiz figure so I would know). The one thing TB still has (and most likely always will) are their washes on the paint apps. Other than that, now that we have stuff to compare with, the Toybiz stuff (for the most part) is downright ugly. It's the main reason I abandoned my "no redos" campaign.
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Thanks Mc U, but we've all seen this. Peeps on this thread are talking like there are photos of the actual product out there. I see there aren't and these "people" who "don't like" this iteration of the Thing (once again) are ML collectors who just have to complain about something.....yet will make sure they have theirs. No photos, no Hi Res images....and people "don't like" the Thing?!?!!? To any this applies to; COME ON people! How many times have we seen a product shot like this one and went crazy thinking "that figure is gonna be awesome", only to find it kinda isn't? Oh I get it, we're doing it in reverse so THIS time, we'll be pleasantly surprised. Geez. I love my ML community but I gotta tell ya, some of us are just plain ridiculous.

 

Of course I could be completely mistaken and this is a case of "fake news". Someone just putting it out there that "people don't like this version of the Thing" (I have to admit, this is the 1st I've heard of it) just to stir some S#!t!

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I can't wait to get him!

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Thanks Mc U, but we've all seen this. Peeps on this thread are talking like there are photos of the actual product out there. I see there aren't and these "people" who "don't like" this iteration of the Thing (once again) are ML collectors who just have to complain about something.....yet will make sure they have theirs. No photos, no Hi Res images....and people "don't like" the Thing?!?!!? To any this applies to; COME ON people! How many times have we seen a product shot like this one and went crazy thinking "that figure is gonna be awesome", only to find it kinda isn't? Oh I get it, we're doing it in reverse so THIS time, we'll be pleasantly surprised. Geez. I love my ML community but I gotta tell ya, some of us are just plain ridiculous.

 

Of course I could be completely mistaken and this is a case of "fake news". Someone just putting it out there that "people don't like this version of the Thing" (I have to admit, this is the 1st I've heard of it) just to stir some S#!t!

I will also chime in that I've never heard of anyone outright hating it. Even I don't hate it and I hate everything. Not really, but I really, really hate the Sasquatch BAF (size rather than sculpt) and my faith in Hasbro's ability to outdo anything TB did has truly been shaken. I mean it's unacceptable that the older figure is actually taller than the new one & I'm never gonna get over that. Score that one for TB, so it wouldn't really surprise me if Hasbro managed to screw this one up as well.

 

As I said, I don't really hate it, it's just a bit underwhelming for something we've all been waiting for so long. First off, though the sculpt is very detailed, it's very reminiscent of the figure from the one in the Ronan wave from the dark days of ML. I'm not sure why Hasbro's so intent on making the rocks of his body so prominent & realistic & "lumpy", but it's actually too detailed (I can't believe I'm actually framing that as a complaint). Very few artists actually portray him in this way and I don't recall anyone doing so in recent times. Honestly, the effort is much appreciated, but it looks nothing like the source material. It resembles the movie Thing more so than the comic Thing. The Thing is more like smooth stone with cracks in it rather than a pile if rocks arranged in a humanoid form. Both Thing figures from Toybiz's FF Classics line (Byrne style or modern) were artistically correct, if maybe a bit on the large side. The Marvel Select version was dead on, but definitely on the much to large side. I know Hasbro likes to distinguish it's figures from anything Toybiz did & the creative team is very proud to outdo TB on every opportunity, but this one ain't gonna do it. Now, to be clear, I will get it (as a matter of fact, I'll most likely get multiples), and I'm sure I'll like it just fine and I'm sure it will be head & shoulders better than the first attempt, buuuut.....it ain't the Thing as I know him. That's all I'm saying. On the bright side, they cannot screw it up worse than they did Sasquatch.

 

Or can they?

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To chime in, I actually liked the Ronan thing...for what it was. His head was too small. The best one to me would've been the TB one, but his proportions were off.

 

I can see why people might not like it, since it isn't really a true representation of classic Thing. But people are and should be allowed to have their favorites, whether it be TB or these new HB. hell, there are a few that I don't think Hasbro could ever outdo (Beast, Doc Ock, Kingpin). So for those, I'd stick to my TB ones. But let's wait until final pictures before truly judging.

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To chime in, I actually liked the Ronan thing...for what it was. His head was too small. The best one to me would've been the TB one, but his proportions were off.

 

I can see why people might not like it, since it isn't really a true representation of classic Thing. But people are and should be allowed to have their favorites, whether it be TB or these new HB. hell, there are a few that I don't think Hasbro could ever outdo (Beast, Doc Ock, Kingpin). So for those, I'd stick to my TB ones. But let's wait until final pictures before truly judging.

My point exactly. This is similar to what happened on another "forum". The guy in question stated he felt the Thanos BAF should be bigger (yeah we haven't heard that one before) and that he didn't think the Proxima Midnight figure scaled properly. I was like "did you get invited to an early private screening of the movie"? Because that would be the only way he could possibly know if she scaled correctly with Thanos. Someone else who agreed with him told me "thank you, but I'll reserve judgement for myself". That's all well and good, except for one thing; HE HAS NOTHING TO BASE A JUDGEMENT ON! The movie isn't out yet (the new trailer came out today so maybe there's a better reference of Proxima there). It's yet another example of 1-The "Bigger is Better" posse's motto of "Accuracy be damned" in full effect, and 2-Marvel Legends collectors simply need something to complain about. Why this is, I don't know. Nieman is right. Let's wait until the figure comes out (or at least until we get some hi res pics)

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I like it. About the only part of the ToyBiz series 2 version I like better is the head sculpt, but I'm sure that the second one will skew in that direction. And if not, who cares, this Thing looks great and has all the right articulation and fists, that should be enough for anyone.

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I have no problem with it at all. I do wonder what the second head looks like, but otherwise I think it looks really nice.

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Wow, I was totally wrong about this one. The press image of the figure was horrible and taken at an awkward angle. Made it look funny, to me at least. The in package pics are great. The figure looks much better from the straight forward view. The second head is almost dead on. We need this figure ASAP.

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My only issue with it is the scale. Too big. Ben is 6ft 500lbs, not 7ft 1000lbs, that's classic Hulk stats. Once I get it, I'm gonna see if I can perform some sorta customizing surgery on it to knock off an inch to get him in proper scale. Todays artists take way too much artistic license with certain characters & draw them monster sized. The Thing is thick & wide, not tall.

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1 hour ago, Gmen4ever said:

My only issue with it is the scale. Too big. Ben is 6ft 500lbs, not 7ft 1000lbs, that's classic Hulk stats. Once I get it, I'm gonna see if I can perform some sorta customizing surgery on it to knock off an inch to get him in proper scale. Todays artists take way too much artistic license with certain characters & draw them monster sized. The Thing is thick & wide, not tall.

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We need to bottle what you said and pass it around! I've riffed about scale for forever. The problem is we have people (whom I've dubbed the "Bigger is Better" posse or BiB) always default to the same excuse/rationale: "that's the way he's being drawn". This was a big issue with the Thanos BAF a few years ago. "He isn't big enough". Thanos is 6'7, not Hulk sized. On the flip, if a character is made too large (Juggernaut for example. In the costume used for the BAF, he was 6'10. If Hasbro used one of his two modern costumes, he'd be right in scale). The funny thing about the artist excuse is Thanos was seen recently in the Guardians of the Galaxy comic, and was drawn his normal size. How much you wanna bet the BiB will dismiss that as a "one off"?

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I just think it's the more recent MCU fanbase that doesn't really give a hoot about scale more so than the long time comic fans like us that were buying & supporting Marvel way before any movies ever came out.  Don't get me wrong, I love the MCU, not bashing it at all. I quit collecting comics right after the Planet Hulk/WW Hulk arcs ended. Marvel is now Disney's slave & does what they say, I can't jive with that. I just wish that the artists would stick to the written hgt/wgt scales that were done for all characters when they were created. Spiderman is 5'10, Cap is 6'2, Wolvy is 5'3, they don't mess with their hgts but once you get to the MU Powerhouses, they seem to equate strength/power with size. Like, "No way Juggernaut can just be 6'10, 900lbs, we gotta make him bigger". Why? Is being 6'10 900lbs not big enough?

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